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S2, E1: Grand Hyatt Deer Valley - Inside Deer Valley’s Mission to Make Luxury Affordable for Military Families
A luxury mountain resort that actually lowers the cost of family time for those who serve—this is the story unfolding at Deer Valley’s East Village. We sit down with Kristen Kenney Williams of MIDA and Grand Hyatt GM Nate Hardesty to unpack how a first-of-its-kind partnership guarantees 100 rooms at the Grand Hyatt Deer Valley for eligible military guests at heavily discounted rates, alongside up to 75% off Deer Valley lift tickets with no blackout dates. The result is more than a nice perk; it’s a new model for making restoration, adventure, and connection possible without hidden costs.
We trace the roots back to Utah’s 2002 Olympics and the creation of MIDA, then follow the thread through Extell’s master plan, Deer Valley’s bold terrain expansion, and Hyatt’s decision to anchor a flagship at a true four-season gateway. Nate shares why the hotel’s unusually large meeting and event spaces have become an instant hit, how the team keeps restaurants appealing for locals year-round, and why the property’s proximity to SLC International changes the guest experience. Kristen explains eligibility, booking tiers, and the dedicated concierge support that helps military families get the most from every stay.
The conversation widens to community impact: 800–1,000 employee housing units with nearby retail and services to reduce traffic pressure, expanded recreation that balances winter with strong summer demand on Jordanelle, and a shared “care-first” culture between Deer Valley and Hyatt that extends to nonprofits and mental health advocacy. It’s a rare alignment of state leadership, private investment, and local pride—built to shine ahead of 2034 and designed to last long after.
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It's kind of hard for me to believe that Utah was able to keep this secret for so long.
SPEAKER_00:You know, there there's a lot of eyes on this project, right? I think it's just gonna be one of the most unique year-round recreational portals in the country, if not the world.
SPEAKER_02:The ones that have figured out this secret, which I'm hoping isn't a secret too much longer, they're hosting baby showers here.
SPEAKER_00:You know, frankly, our military deserves it, and they do need that restoration time. I don't think there's any other mountain resort community that's doing that of that magnitude.
SPEAKER_01:What is up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the Small Lake City Podcast. I'm your host, Eric Nilsen, and I'm so excited to kick off season two with all of you. I'm so grateful for all that you've done to support the podcast up until this point, and I'm so excited to kick off season two. Now, for episode one, I'm excited for this episode for a lot of reasons. Because if you've been paying attention to what's been going on in the Jordanelle, Heber, and Deer Valley area, you know that this year is the first year that they've had the expansion of the Deer Valley Ski Resort to include the Mayflower. Um, kind of this back end of Deer Valley that connects down to Jordan L. And part of that development is the brand new Hyatt Regency Hotel. Now, as part of that Hyatt Regency Hotel, there's a part of it that's allocated towards our military and our troops to give them a great place to go and explore and enjoy when they are not active duty anymore. So, for this episode, we're joined by Kristen Kenny Williams and Nate Hardesty, who is the woman in charge of the military program. And then Nate is the GM of the Hyatt itself. So neither of them are from here, but brought together because of this project. I'm excited about this because not only does it give back to our troops and our military, but it's also a great expansion and boon to the economy that is Salt Lake City and the Deer Valley area. But we're gonna jump into it. Great conversation with them. So let's hear from them and hope you enjoy. It's fun to see, like I mean, neither of you are from Salt Lake, but the saying Small Lake City is like this colloquialism that everybody uses. Right. It's like you go to the grocery store, like, oh, there's so and so who I went to high school with, and now they're dating my coworker. Right.
SPEAKER_02:Small Lake City, big city, but it feels like a small town.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. And like when you have something called Small Lake City and it starts to like you chase after that energy, it starts to get really, really weird. Like, for example, like it's um so I was here the last time I was here at the hotel was a year ago with the grand opening was here. It was really fun. I mean, it's it's cool to see like in the next generation of hotels because when you look at the current landscape of hotels in like northern Utah, let's call it. It's like you have your Grand America and like Marriott downtown in Salt Lake, or you have like Stein and I mean everything on the other side of Deer Valley. But with this, it's like, oh, we get to kind of start over again or like try something new. And so it's fun to have this new branding. But then it's been interesting in my day job. I've actually been um interacting a lot with the Pritzker family. So I was actually in this this year. I've been at the Pritzker office in Chicago, downtown, twice. Really? And so it's like wild to be like, oh, here's the of course Hyatt makes its way into my small lake city at Customers. So then it was fun when uh I saw Erica at its in house and she was like, Hey, like, I have an idea for you. I was like, I would love to. So excited to be here today, uh, with Nane Kristen, uh both various capacities here at the Grand Hyatt in Deer Valley, which has been, I mean, this project in itself has been underway for six, seven plus years now. Maybe ten. Maybe ten.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I think the the vision was probably even more beyond that seven ten years.
SPEAKER_00:We broke around in 2021.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But the vision goes back years earlier. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Which is like and it's taken so many turns because like I had a friend who, when we graduated college, she went into marketing in real estate development. And so she was a project manager for the Mayflower. Yeah. And I mean, I got coffee with which, like, oh my gosh, they're building this uh this resort, it's gonna be amazing, yada yada. I'm like, that sounds phenomenal. I mean, and not that new ski resort. Like, there hasn't been a new ski resort in Utah in I don't even know how years. And there's been all of the excitement of Park City with Park City and Canyons merging, and so I was like, cool, there's another one. And then sure enough, COVID happens. Money dries up, and people have to start to make some decisions, and we never know the whole backstory. And if you either view more on it, happy to hear. But Deer Valley comes in and says, Hey, like, that makes an easy connection from us because we have our gondola on Jordan L side, so might as well bring it into the family. Yeah, you probably know a little bit more of that is Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I'll try to be succinct. Uh, but no, it's it's actually a super cool story and and really exciting. So in 2002, when the first Olympics came to Utah, now we can say first because there'll be a second um in 2034. But um there was um a small seven-unit uh what we call MWR or morale recreation facility, um morale welfare recreation facility um lodge at the base of Snow Basin. And as the planning for the Olympics started, um they needed that land for the the ski race course, the downhill. And um so it was on federal land as MWRs typically are. And um so at around uh 2002, um what's called the Military Installation Development Authority um was being formed as well. Um it is a state-created uh governmental authority, and with regard to that particular issue, if you will, Congress said, we'll find another piece of land to replace these seven units, but you've got to figure out how to fund it. The military has to figure out how to fund it. So um the MITA, what is the acrimon for the Military Installation Development Authority? MIDA um uh said they would be willing to help facilitate uh recreating this very important recreational lodging opportunity for our military. What's beautiful about the state of Utah is they love their military. They love serving the United States of America. So this was this was a heavy focus and all the way up to the Pentagon to make this happen. So Congress um did identify a piece of land in the Park City area. Um it wasn't ideal for the Park City community. At the same time, um, an incredible development company out of New York City, Xtel Development, was looking to expand into the mountain resort market. Um really fell in love with um the state of Utah, fell in love with the idea of MIDA being a facilitator of public-private partnership to make things happen. Wasatch County was really struggling with a 40-year master plan for this area that's very recreational focused. You know, no one in and of themselves has enough money to carry out a recreational vision. And so MITA really facilitated bringing all these parties together um with the mission to not only boost economic revenue generation for the state, but also support our military. So um long story, many, many long story, many um years in the making. Um MIDA came together with Wasatch County, Xtel Development, and then the hotel brand, Grant Hyatt, Deer Valley, to build the first of what will be seven hotels, most likely, in this area. Wow. Um and Gary Barnett with Xtel Development has this incredible vision to bring that master plan that Wasatch County has to life. But very purposely, the first hotel to come out of the ground was the Grand High at Deer Valley. And we jumped from seven rooms at the base of a at the base of Snow Basin and really kind of a bunkered cabin situation to 100 rooms within the 381 room hotel that come with heavily, heavily discounted rates for our military.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think it's it's kind of a cool story. I don't know about your as a civilian. I had never even heard of MWR morale welfare and recreation. So candidly, you know, as I was exploring this and taking this job on, it was a new term for me. And it's a pretty powerful thing. I mean, I I you know, specifically built mostly by the government and operated by the government for different branches, literally as places to make sure that our military has places that they can go enjoy themselves pre-post-deployment, you know, and and at extremely discounted rates.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so it was a pretty it's a pretty cool thing. And I think part of the this all happening was that they they came to Xtel, not Hyatt. I I came in after that and said, in order for us to let you build on this land, you need to give us a certain allocation of this hotel to allow us to offer it to the military. So every given night, and there are some parameters around it. We don't need to go into all the logistics, but every given night, about a fourth of the hotel inventory is dedicated for that purpose. Whether or not we have four a fourth of our inventory occupied, we have it available for uh for um certain categories of the military and the retired vets to take advantage of. You you probably want the could probably explain the the tiers a little bit better.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so there's um well, and first of all, so this is to your point, this is the first um MWR that's affiliated with a hotel branch.
SPEAKER_01:Because usually it's just its own building, it's getting out of own on public land that's exactly gotten there and like and and built by and funded by the military.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah and without that funding, you know, we wouldn't be here. Right. And the Department of Defense is super excited about the success of this hotel because they wanted they want to replicate this model.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, if I'm if I'm the military and even like zooming out and thinking, okay, less people are signing up for the military than ever. And we can think of these MWRs as, I mean, a perk that's available to people to use at their leisure, especially with their family at a very discounted rate, I'd see this as an opportunity. Like, what do you mean, like our personnel can go stay at a Hyatt for a fraction of the cost? And one of the places that people spend tens of thousands of dollars to go to, we're in. Let's like get this as an example and move forward. But before we go too far into it, because I'm very, very curious for so many reasons. Maybe let's just do a quick introduction for both of you and give like kind of why we're seeing you at the table and then your roles in making this all come to life. Babies first.
SPEAKER_00:Um, okay, so Kristen Kenny Williams. Um, I am MITA's uh military operations and communications director. So I know, yeah, like all Akinon's organizations. Um, but um I I really do mostly handle their communications and whatnot, but um I'm so excited to over the last few years, um, as this hotel has been coming online, really working closely with Nate and his team and Hill Air Force Base to market those 100 rooms and make sure that while they're here for heavily discounted rates, that they're not just sitting in their room because they can't afford to go out and recreate. So um really bringing a lot of additional partners to the table so that we've got all kinds of offerings for our guests.
SPEAKER_01:So I think any other large partners besides Hyatt were potential?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, for sure. So the Hyatt beyond the um the heavily discounted room rate is offering spa discounts, food and beverage, excluding alcohol discounts. Uh we've got ski rental discounts, but most importantly, um Deer Valley Resort has offered a day ski pass for all of our guests. We're we call them salute to service guests. All of our guests staying at the hotel. Um the the day pass rate is up to 75% off. And I think we all kind of know that Deer Valley Rough mech, that's a great deal.
SPEAKER_02:And no blackouts, right? Like if they're here, can they can zook a ticket saying yeah at that price?
SPEAKER_01:Because that was a nightmare if I'm working in the military, in the air force. I just got back from deployment, haven't seen my family, want to go do a trip. Here's this offering that I get to do. And you're right at the base. Exactly. Kids are stoked, you know. We want to, we're gonna go to Park City in the winter. You get here, it's like, hey, by the way, we gotta go to the grocery store. We actually can't do anything, and the TV has a lot of great programming. Like that's one end of just having a fail.
SPEAKER_00:It would be the program would be a failure. Guys, we couldn't just rest on this um lodging rate discount. And so, so not only so the lodging rate discount, um, so you have the eligible service member who, and we can talk about that, but we have the eligible service member who books the room. Um, you can have up to four people in your room and you can book two rooms at a time. So that's you know, potentially creating a vacation for eight people. The Deer Valley Resort Ski Pass matches that. So um, if the eligible person is staying here and is buying the ski pass, can buy up to eight discounted lift tickets. There's a discount for kids five through twelve, two, that's even greater. So it's all, but it's to Nate's earlier point, it's all based on on three tiers um based on rank. And um, I think it starts at 109, and you know, the the third rank is like 201 is your lodging rate. And then the the day of ski passes um even less than that. So it's incredible.
SPEAKER_01:It's like better than any hot rate hot wire deal I could find anywhere in like the whole state.
SPEAKER_00:And and remember too, it's the Grand Hyatt Deer Valley, and it's brand new. And and it's not the it's not a block of runes set aside, like you guys are over there. It's dispersed, as Nate was saying, it's dispersed among the 381 rooms. You know, the intent very purposefully is that they feel like they're on vacation. Um, and you know, they're not work, they're not in uniform, you know, they can convene with fellow guests as much or as little as they want. Um, there is a dedicated concierge space that only the salute to service guests can access. And the feedback on that has just been overwhelming.
SPEAKER_02:It's been good. We've we've started seeing uh the ones that have figured out this secret, which I'm hoping isn't a secret too much longer, they're hosting baby showers here. They're starting to to bring family members in and men brag about it. And to your point, we try and we we beyond try, you know, outside of re appreciating them and thanking them for their service, we you know, they're just a normal guest here, or you know, regardless. And so uh yeah, it's great. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_00:But the the level of hospitality, professionalism, and I I've been in the resort industry for a number of years. I I'm just blown away. And um the relationship between the Utah Knot Army National Guard and Hill Air Force Base and the Grand Hyatt team and the Deer Valley team has just, I mean, everybody's so proud to support one another. Um, all these teams have been either toured the National Guard or toured Hill Air Force Base. I got to ski two winters ago with a group of Navy SEALs. I mean, the reciprocity is just amazing and the relationship building is amazing. And I really think um, you know, I I kind of credit Gary Barnett from New York City really identifying that Utah is the only state that could really pull together um this partnership, this passion for one another, this support. You know, um, you know, I don't think Nate or the Grand Hyatt feels like they inherited this. They're proud to say that they, you know, include it. And so it's been incredible.
SPEAKER_01:Well and it's nice too, because I mean, a lot of people don't realize that a lot of like going back to this private public partnership where so much of the ski resorts, I think uh maybe there's only one that doesn't fit into this mold, but all of the ski resorts operate on a land lease for the National Forest Service. Right. And so, like, even those being like, oh, well, here's land, you can develop, you can do this, here's pricing, here's terms, here's what it might be, is one thing. But then to have this where there's so many other it's it's so much more dynamic, so much more like individually impactful and I mean purpose-driven as well. And also just makes, I mean, everybody who is from here gets to benefit from I mean, having an amazing hotel here that we can adapt because everybody, I mean, who comes up to Park City for some way, shape, or form. Like, that's my biggest bet peeve is people like, hey, let's go to a show, let's go do this. It's sundance. I'm like, listen, we still have to drive back or we still have to go try to find somewhere. And so it's nice to have another great place to stay in a great space, especially like I love the Jordan O sign. Like, my favorite run at Deer Valley is coming over the edge to go down to the gondola in Jordanelle, and you just have this winter view of Jordan, and then now that can be the view from your hotel route.
SPEAKER_02:There's a new run, and they were talking about it today a little bit at the Deer Valley state of the industry, but uh it's called Revelator. And I was up on a tour, no snow, just looking down, and it I've lived in the Tao and worked in Tahoe. And if you've been there before and you scanned it down, looking yeah, into the water, it's not quite the the as grandiose, but it is still pretty cool.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely. And that's I mean, that's the other beauty of developing out this um Deer Valley East Village and then Sky Ridge across the highway, is it truly we can truly boast that it's a year-round recreational opportunity. So even if you, I mean, I think I think our summer bookings are going to mirror winter bookings at some point because you're gonna have more water enthusiasts than you are potentially skiers, um, or at least match. So it's it's just I think it's just gonna be one of the most unique, newest ski portals or or year-round recreational portal portals in the country, if not the world, because we've got the water and we've got the mount.
SPEAKER_02:It has to be. And you part of the reason why if you look around Park City and you don't see a bunch of four or five hundred room hotels is because these ski resort markets predominantly run under 50% occupancy or right at 50% for the year, and 60% of revenue comes in the first three months of the year. So to develop with the confidence to know that it's going to be more than what it is normally here with all that sort of activities, it's a it's a big bet, but I think you're right at payout. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:A couple of anecdotes. I, you know, when early on as we broke ground, you know, there's a lot of eyes on this project, right? And um I can't begin to tell you how many conversations were around, you know, why do you have to partner with Grand Hyatt? That's too high-end, that this isn't going to be affordable. The service members don't care where they stay, you know, as long. And it's just like, just wait, just wait, just wait. And when they, when the greater community, the military community has been amazing from day one, they get it. But the greater community, when they heard, you know, we're talking about$100 room rates year round at the Grand Hyatt, you know, there there isn't another hotel property that can beat that, really. Um, so and and and you know, frankly, our military deserves it. And they do need that restoration time. They do need time with their families. Got a lot of people working behind the scenes with the the Hyatt marketing team to even try enhance it even better in terms of understanding within booking window time, po the post and uh pre deployment times to make sure we can get families in here. You know, I think people forget just in state that the opportunities for staycations pre and post deployment are huge. With the number of National Guard we have and the number of um folks that we have up at Hill Air Force Base. So we're continuing to work on all that.
SPEAKER_01:I love that. Because not from here. We were talking a little bit before. It's been 11 states in your career in hospitality in Hyatt.
SPEAKER_02:I have to be in the top 10% of people who have gone to the DMV in different states. That's a designation screary like to brag about too much, but yeah, I've got gotta be up there. But yeah, uh Nate Artisty, I've been with Hyatt for about almost 25 years next year. Uh but to your point, you know, it's an industry where it's similar to the military. If you're willing and able uh from a career standpoint, the opportunities are endless. And you know, prior to getting married and kids, I you know, was zipping around the country every year and a half, two years to to see different parts and experience, and uh it was incredible. So I've I've had a great opportunity to see a lot of the country, but spent three years in Tahoe and previously was in Austin. But when they when this call came, my wife and I just we we loved the mountains and it kind of felt like kismen to to to come to Utah.
SPEAKER_01:So glad to be here. I mean, as someone who's been in Hyatt for 25 years, I would imagine various capacities. Now the GM, not just for here, but for the region. I mean, what does this new resort spark is like in an interest not just for you personally, but like for the Hyatt brand itself?
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it's huge, right? For for a couple of reasons. Number one, this area has so much notoriety um within the the internationally, just from a ski destination. And we've got a great hotel in Parb City, but to be part of kind of the flagship and the launch of what I think is going to be so incredible. And I I don't even know that I can put into words what I think this is gonna be when it's all said and done, and we could talk more about that. So so it's great from from Hyatt's recognition. It's also a big part of what our resorts in any hotel chain stand for, are is a place for loyalty members to redeem it points. And you know, to not have something in this key destination, um, I think is a huge miss. So Hyatt was was super excited when the opportunity came to them. And uh yeah, it's gonna be Lamfa.
SPEAKER_01:Totally. I mean, especially when you like zoom out and you look at I mean the the pandemic boon of a couple industries, one being golf and one being like skiing and especially travel that it brings because you get uh social distance while doing stuff. Totally. And so it's been fun to see that explode in Utah in general. Like, I mean, I had friends in COVID, they're like, I'm just gonna come move to Utah for three months, go ski, and then leave. Never left, never left. But then it's so fun to see how much people have come to love this place. Like the amount of stories you hear of people being like, Oh, I visited here and never left. I came for a wedding, I never left. I came for a work trip and decided I was gonna stay here, gonna be a power bomb, whatever. But then now it's fun to see how going from those like personal ends of what people want to experience, live, how they live their life, but then all of a sudden you see these huge companies look at it and be like, hey, we can actually make this like more affordable for like um typically second-thought populations and to give them that opportunity, but then also just to make it more accessible and usable for so many else. I mean, even just driving up here right now. I mean, I can't even think about how many people are just developing this to make it um mirror a lot of the experience you see on the other side in Deer Valley and Parks.
SPEAKER_02:It it's kind of hard for me to believe that UCO Utah was able to keep this such a secret for so long. I mean, I I I I don't know my Utah history, but I think the population is what, three and a half million right now, which is crazy to me. And and at the same point, having lived here now for long enough to know that it is not cheap, uh, particularly up in the mountains, to to also build. And so I I can understand why from that standpoint it's it's a a specific crowd that's moved up here.
SPEAKER_00:And I think that's that that's it's such an important point to emphasize in terms of you're I mean, it took 40 years, right? This master plan for this area, no one could figure out how to build it. And I think the right, the absolute right people are at the table doing it. So that um, and it's it's pretty remarkable to be a part of something from the ground up. Um you know, because you can come in and say, we know we're gonna need affordable housing, we know we're gonna have a significant workforce. Um, so we've got to carve out, we know we've got to get infrastructure in first before some of these more expensive free market residences go in. Um so it's the the alignment among all the partners and having this incredible developer, master developer in Excel, but then all the other developers that are coming in, um, everyone's on the same page with the importance with that. And so um, and and it's also highlighting, I think too, that um yes, Park City is a very expensive community to live in. Um but Kieber, Midway, incredible, incredible year-round communities. And I think it's really highlighting um those communities and wanting to be a part of living there, wanting to partake in their commercial and restaurant offerings. I mean, they they have an incredible culinary scene over there, you know? And so in addition to the neighborhoods um that we'll be building out that are more affordable from a rental and a home purchase opportunity for the workforce, for management, um, we'll do it right here. So we're all we're all living together.
SPEAKER_02:We'll get in now on Heber. Yeah, I don't even know if you can get in. I don't even know if you could say, yeah. Well, I just because I think it's probably the most important part of this project that we talk about the least, because everybody's excited about the Grand Height. Everybody's excited about the four seasons, everybody's excited about Deer Valley's expansive. But what is not being talked about yet, but it's already under development, is they're adding 800 to a thousand um employee housing units across the highway on Highway 40, as well as retail, grocery, and amenities for those folks so they can live and not generate additional traffic for for this area as well. So they can shuttle and bite everywhere. It's bigger than a lot of cities in Utah. It's pretty crazy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um it's a whole I don't think there's any other mountain resort community that's doing that of that magnitude.
SPEAKER_01:Not at all.
SPEAKER_00:And it's and they're doing it not out of obligation or requirement, but it's the right thing to do.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And and that's how we feel about the employees that are gonna be offering these experiences here.
SPEAKER_01:Oh I'm curious, Kristen, because like I'm sure this isn't the first project that you've done to that like this, but maybe I mean how this compares to other ones you've worked on or some of the other ones you could highlight that are in your both from the military perspective, but also from uh let's call it uh uh like private public partnership.
SPEAKER_00:I think um so a couple of things. I think the military component is definitely new and has been so rewarding to, you know, understand our military better and what they go through and why these MWR facilities are so important, um, you know, why supporting them is so important. Um, I think, you know, everything's more expensive. There's not a lot of land to develop on anymore. Everyone across the country seems to recognize we're in a housing crisis, and affordable housing doesn't get done without subsidy or partnership. And so being able to bring some previous experiences around, you know, how we build out uh infrastructure and more and more people are looking at housing like infrastructure, just as important as roads and transit is housing. Um, so being able to bring together a lot of previous experience and ideas, but also um, you know, what's been tremendous truly is um this facilitation of the private public. And, you know, it it's not easy, it's obviously, and um there's been a lot of challenges, but you know, my gosh, you know, to to really be able to be a part of a team that financially has a path to build out the East Village by the 2034 Olympics, to see, you know, probably one of the best, if not the best, resort operator in the country being able to double their terrain, double their offerings, build up their staffs to maintain that Deer Valley resort brand that we're all aware of, to do that in just a few short years. It's truly, truly incredible. And Nate mentioned we were at their winner kickoff luncheon um this afternoon. And I mean, you see it, the passion and the drive. You know, we heard from many um members of the leadership team at Deer Valley Resort, and they are committed to get, and they're so proud of, you know, one of the things several of them kept saying over and over is um, you know, the biggest risk they were taking in deciding to double their terrain and their offerings was that they don't want guests, current guests, future guests to feel like something different's happened. Um they want to still feel like I'm still at Deer Valley Resort. And um how they've um how they're going about it, I think, is masterful. And not everyone could do that.
SPEAKER_02:They say it in a couple of different ways, but I I hadn't picked up until today how much of their purpose is similar to Hyatt's, which is everything we do is centered around care and not just for the guests, but for employees. We kind of have that belief that if we take care of our employees that the guests will get taken care of. And they they really resonated with me today that they say that mission. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, great. I mean, it's I mean it's the same thing in a lot of industries, right? I mean, it the consistency is so important and that experience you can have. I mean, it from a higher perspective, you want I mean, your po royalty members and point holders to have that same experience and not have a bad one as compared to even like the same restaurants you go to. You don't want to have the same order the same dish two different weeks and have one be great and one be terrible. I have it. It's it does, and it's one of the hardest things to have is that quality of control. And it's I mean, especially thinking about the experience, like from the ex the point of view that I see the most is like what a lot of Utah's and Sol Like citizens complain about is oh, everybody's trying to get out skiing every single day, especially during the winter in Little Conway Canyons, traffic is full and big continent's full. You go up to Deer Valley and there's no parking, you go up to Park City, there's no parking. And so just to be able to have a nut, I mean, even just from that perspective of having more to experience. But then, I mean, you alluded to it as well, Chris, in where the Olympics are coming. And when we look back at 2002 and how much infrastructural changes had to happen. I mean, everything from tracks to the freeway system to upgrading the Delta Center to gateway to the Kern's Oval, and the list goes on. Like this is part of that wave to make that an experience great for everybody. But then that's also nice because it's a lasting change that will keep going on forever, where in 20 years after that, we'll still be talking about how great of the investment was.
SPEAKER_00:And this, I mean, this state is, you know, an another huge differentiator. This state is so um it's it's amazing from the governor to the legislature at the Capitol to local government level. You know, I love that phrase, the Utah way, and that identification that um, you know, Utah wants to get things done, but they get it done right. They they really bring the right people to the table. And and that's why I think they successfully executed the Olympics in 2002 and why they're coming back. You know, I mean, they there's so much um honor of tradition and how they've maintained the Olympic park in Park City and still utilize it. I mean, that's there's worldwide recognition of this state and its communities. And um it's just it's it is so different and so rewarding to be here. And the people are just I think I think the people are amazing, and every community in in Utah is is a bit different, but so welcoming, so um, so social, um, you know, really embracing the outdoors and and various industries. And um, it's just it's it's unique and it's it's amazing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And it's Day on that same topic. I mean, a lot of people could look at, I mean, the resort's opening this year, the Hyatt is done, people are can book rooms today if they wanted to. I mean, what else is there to look forward to from people who might drive by and see all this construction and development of how it can play into their lives and what they could hopefully enjoy in their own lives?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, great question. I mean, we we really are trying to subscribe to the fact that this is not just a destination for visitors coming from out of town. We want to be part of the local community and everything that we do. So we're really focused on making our restaurants local quality restaurants that people want to come back to. That's a different offering that, especially in in Hebrew City and in Midway has a little bit more um from an upscale standpoint, but we want to make sure that that the locals are coming here in all times of year. Obviously, in the winter time, it gets a little bit more hectic, but but really that that's the goal. The other nice part and unique part about what they did when developing this hotel is there aren't many mountain resorts that have as much meeting space or conference facilities that you have. And candidly, it's been our it's been our instant home run. Um, you know, there are there are many organizations, both from associations that bring together their members to corporation, corporate companies who want to host a meeting that want to be in the mountains, but there are not many facilities around the country in candidly globally that have as much space that can accommodate them. So it's opened up a window to event planners. And we've, I mean, it's been when I say it's been a home run right out of the gate, it really has been. I mean, we've we've had a huge year in terms of meeting and events, we're seeing growth. And the other thing is even in Park City, where there's amazing hotels and conference facilities, they're not big enough to host some of the galas that are in town, and including, unfortunately, the the last year being this year for Sundance. So, but we're able to host that bad event last year and one more time on its way out. Um so it's been great, and it's been a great way to meet the community too, because so many great people host these galas and put their heart and soul into it.
SPEAKER_01:Totally. And like you want to have a beautiful space that can echo the event that they want to have, but then also have the experience that makes it want to come back. And like I'm hoping, fingers crossed, that with Sundance it's gonna be similar to um outdoor the OR outdoor retail, where they'll try to go do somewhere else and they're like, all right, fine, listen.
SPEAKER_02:I was in Denver when that went to Denver, actually. I remember that very well.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so I'm hoping that because like man, that's like when I was in college, I was one of the first Lyft drivers in Salt Lake. And it was wild because I remember I was working a sundance and picked up people from the airport. I think they're in town from either LA or New York, as they do for Sundance. And I think it was like 10 or 11 at night, and we're driving up Harley's Canyon, and this woman's like, So, like, when are we gonna start driving up the mountains? Like, is it time like when can we see? I'm like, Like, we are, we are, we are as in the marriage as we defeat. And like, because that's the same thing that people don't realize. Like, when you try to fly into Denver again in the mountains, like buckle up and go rent a car, you got a long way to go. Like, that's one thing I love about I mean Salt Lake and Park City is I mean, Park City, your third, I mean, from here to the airports, 40, 45 minutes, Salt Lake.
SPEAKER_00:And no stop lines.
SPEAKER_01:No, everyone says that. That's like the famous, famous tagline, no is my map.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And so it's it's like this whole experience that that makes coming here that much better. Because like, there's nothing worse than flying somewhere. You've been on a plane for five hours, you're like, I just want to go lay in the hotel room for like 20 minutes before I think about doing anything else. And it's like, well, how about a rental car that may or may not still smell like cigarettes? And 25-minute wait to get that car, and and it's rush hour, and you have to go through a city with a billion stoplights and drivers you don't know. And so I'm hoping that as Sundance tries to go somewhere else, they'll be like, No, I think Robert Redford wanted it here for a reason. We should probably go back, you know. But because it also, too, just I mean, so much of the local community benefits from that. How many millions and millions of dollars it brings in? Like, I was when I was younger, I was like, What is Sundance? This is so dumb. And then I get older, I was like, wait, this is amazing. And then from like a college perspective, but then as I get older, I'm like. No, the economic ramifications are huge.
SPEAKER_02:I I don't want to put words in Sundance's mouth because I don't have any idea what what the driving force behind choosing a new destination is. But I I remember at a hotel that I worked at, we had this gentleman who played the guitar in the restaurant. And, you know, there'd be 200 people a night that would come in to listen to him sing, and people loved it. It would sing along. And we used to always talk about, oh, we need to change it up. We need to change it up. And finally we're like, just because we're we see it every night, it's not, you know, it's not, it's new to a lot of people.
SPEAKER_01:And so I think that there is that special uh part of it that hopefully don't and there's like this whole process that happens in a lot of different industries and experiences of life. Like the first one I realized was college, where it's like there's people going out, there's people coming in, it's this consistent, like cyclical process. And it didn't hit me until I was watching White Lotus uh a couple years ago, where I was like, Oh, it is this like if you work at the hotel, it's the same guitar guy every Friday night. Like, I know Greg, he's pretty great. He's gonna play these five songs. Oh, that one usually hits. This one usually doesn't do as well, but everybody likes it this night because so-and-so is 50 its wedding anniversary family's here, and that happens to be their wedding song. And usually the servers are like, oh god, it's Greg again, or they know exactly what Greg's gonna play at 7.02. Exactly. But then what you don't realize is everybody else, this is the first time they've seen it. It's amazing, it's magical. And so sometimes, like, you want to tinker with it because you're like, you've seen it, but you're out of that experience loop that other people expect. Greg knows what he's doing. Yeah, Greg, Greg knows what he's doing, he still gets those tips. He's still he's still coming back. Yeah, so very good for at least him. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:To your point, I think the other thing that's important to us is that for the meetings and events, we are kind of the driver behind the experience. But when guests are coming in to ski Deer Valley and to experience Park City and Hebrew Valley and and and all of that, we're just the NL, we're just here as a support. You know, we're what we want to make sure is they have a great experience and they leave and say, Man, we had the best trip ever. But we're we're not the highlight, and we we try to make sure that we remember that. But uh we we certainly need to make sure we're also delivering on that promise that Deer Valley and Park City uh and Hebrew Valley.
SPEAKER_01:And Kristen, I guess for those who are listening who might be interested, if they're an eligible military member, what does that process look like to uh book a room and end up here and experiencing the great hotel and area that they're in?
SPEAKER_00:Right. So uh eligibility, um, like I said, mirrors um all active MWRs across the country throughout the world. Um so that's your active military, your retired military, your active Department of Defense Um civilian and disabled veteran. So, and there is a distinguish between retired and veteran. So retired is 20 years of service or more. So within the veteran category, we're really only serving uh the disabled veteran. Um so that retired and veteran kind of gets confused once in a while. Um, but uh if you just go to the Grand Hyedere Valley homepage and click on their menu, you'll see the salute to service. Um that's the program that we're calling it. And you click on that and it takes you into the three ranks to book. So it's really pretty simple. I will say um, you know, what we're coming up on in a day or two, the opening of the hotel. And um, so just been an Operation for one year, and we're already seeing 2026 Q1 bookings outpacing all of 2025. So it is important to when you can um think about your time.
SPEAKER_01:Think ahead. Don't be like me, don't procrastinate until the line of satellite and and book.
SPEAKER_00:And and like I said, you can book up to two rooms per stay, um, four people a room. Um, I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
SPEAKER_02:So you you nailed it.
SPEAKER_00:Your ski, your ski pass you do, you you can't do that in advance. But like Nate said, um, there is no you won't arrive and not be able to ski. Um, but that just is handled on site. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:We uh it's been a bit of a grassroot effort because there are websites dedicated to NWR hotels, but because of the public-private partnership, we're still working with the US government to to kind of cut through some of that red tape to get us on those websites. So it's been a little slower than we had hoped. So we appreciate you allowing us to talk about it. Uh but once we started getting the word out, it's also kind of fun because I didn't realize how many uh amazing organizations are out there that are formed for families that have lost you know loved ones in service, some you know, families who are recently retired looking for work. It's just been uh incredible to see the those communities and what they're doing with with basically no funds, right? They're just kind of out there supporting these great causes. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And it's wild to think. I mean, back before the 2002 Olympics, there was a I mean a bunk and on some land that they can go explore and enjoy Snow Basin. And now it's like, hey, like, what we'll grab your bags, you go up to the room, it's it's pretty nice. Two or eight people, like I I'll never forget there was it was in college, we were down in Southern California, and one of my friends, thankfully, was like a military veteran veteran who came back from service and now doctor, but he's like, hey, if you guys want to go to Disneyland, I can get 10 passes for the price of one. And it was like this like record scratch moment of like, yeah, we're gonna need to do that. Right. And so it's it's nice that like it, it's it's good to have give service or give experiences to our military service, but it's another thing to be like, hey, it's not just for you, it's for your family. It's in like yes, exactly. Because the last thing you want to do is like, I can't even imagine how this conversation would go on a group chat of mine. It's like, hey guys, I get a great deal at this really nice hotel in Fark City. You guys should come. By the way, it's probably gonna be 10 times as much for you as is for me, but hope you can make it.
SPEAKER_02:And let me tell you too, the staff here loves it, both because they're incredible people and serve serving the the country, but also running a hotel in such a high-end area like this, people come in with high expectations. When these guests come in, they're like, holy short, I don't know if I can swear. Oh, holy yeah, yeah. Like they're like, holy shit, they just can't believe that this is there for them. And so it's like you you know immediately when they come in, they're just so excited we're here.
unknown:Cool.
SPEAKER_00:Nate Nate has a a dedicated concierge team for the North Star Lounge. That's the dedicated concierge for our salute to Sarah's guests, and they produce a monthly report um to you know, give us feedback. How can we make it better? What what are the improvements? Where are we slipping up? Where has there been confusion? Every month I get the report, every month I have to call the team and say, you guys remember, like we need constructive criticism, we need the negatives, and they're just there haven't really been any um other than some of the you know Utah liquor law things that we have to modify.
SPEAKER_01:It's probably another podcast.
SPEAKER_00:I can't do anything about it.
SPEAKER_01:Then Tanner Leonard, the liquor warrior. We talked to her, it's you say she helps us. Oh, she helps out. Like it's it's another one of the once you know one thing, then all of a sudden you know everything. But yeah, she helps everyone. So I had her on. I was like, walk me through this. Oh, listen to that episode. Yeah, no, it's it's it's a good one. I like talking to her, she's fun.
SPEAKER_00:Um yeah, so no, I think I think, yeah, there there's uh so much pride, huge team effort, multi-team effort, and yeah, and it's only up from here.
SPEAKER_02:Here's how way we're getting it done. Can I ask you as from a from a local's perspective, what what was this piece of land to you or as as you kind of seen it develop? Like what's been the the talk? I know there's a lot of rumors about the snow not being very good on this side of the mountain.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I think it's it's been mixed because there's kind of like the two parts of Utah population when it comes to something like this. There's the people who are like, keep it pure, keep it sacred, keep access to everybody. We want to use this. And the more the development comes in, prices go up, accessibility goes down. But then there's the people who it's like, hey, listen, you not everybody can go touring everywhere, not everybody can go um ski wherever they want to, whenever they want to. Everything's getting crowded. We need some sort of um uh help to liberate a lot of that. And then also the people in the similar camp who are like, hey, the more economic prosperity that we can have here, the more that we all benefit from that. And so, from like my own perspective, like I I mean, I've grown up skiing in Salt Lakes, and my grandpa's theory was if you can walk, you can ski. So I've been skiing since I was in diapers, and like I know most resorts like the back of my hand. When I heard there was a new resort, I was very excited. Like, I've like Deer Valley was one that when I was a kid, I was like, yeah, Deer Valley's stupid. It's like all we're nice, and I want to go ski park and exactly. Well, I'd ski, I never snowboarded, so I can't attest to that one. But as I've gotten older, I'm like, no, hold on. Well, but listen, I would love to go sit on the beach and have a nice cocktail and just like have a little bit more uh experience. And like to that uh, like I was saying about having that view coming over Jordan L and having this whole area where, and I'm sure someone's gonna disagree with me, which is fine. Like, there really wasn't too there's not too much to do in this area before this. Like, it's not like people like, oh, I want to go hike on this side of Jordan L. I want to go mountain bike over here, do this. I feel like it was a lot of unused land, and so liberating that to where now it's like, hey, if if you want to go ski somewhere, guess what? Now you have a whole other of any other place there would be this would be considered like a huge resort. Now we have that all opened up. And like I always love like a good staycation in Park City. Like I love like even this summer, I think I did two different weekends just getting a hotel because it's cheap because it's the off season. And it's nice because you can go hike, you can go mountain bike, you can go out to all the restaurants and have a lot of those other experiences that if you come in the winter during prime time, it's gonna be twice as much and it's gonna be twice as hard to get there. And so I think there's there's a lot of optimism. I mean, especially with the Olympics coming, a lot of people realize that there is a lot of changes that need to happen. And there was a lot of, I mean, there's like if you look at the uh Beijing Olympics, where so much of what they did to prepare that were things that were built and then torn down. It wasn't these big infrastructure changes that the lasting people there will benefit from. Whereas, I mean, the 2002, it's kind of hit and miss. Like there's a lot of a lot of um commercial dollars that came in eventually kind of like back their way out over time. But thankfully, we benefited from a lot of the infrastructure, which unbeknownst to us then we need it now. And as we've and there's a report that came out yesterday that says in the next 20 to 30 years, there's four million people coming to Utah. And so, and a lot of people think that haven't worked on big projects like this that all right, we can just build a microchip factory, we can take all of those jobs from China, everything's gonna get cheaper. It's like, sweetheart, that it takes decades and billions of dollars in partnerships. It's not a light switch that we can turn on. And so I think similarly, there's there's a post that someone had, and it was someone complaining about tracks before it was built. And I think there's gonna be a lot of people who, whether they're gonna be a little bit more pessimistic or curmudgeon about it, I think 10, 15, 20 years from now, we're gonna look and see how this is all developed. We have all this great employee housing. We have this area that's developed to ease a lot of the house pricing and elasticity of it. I think it's gonna be a net positive. I think, I mean, to both to the worlds that both of you experience right now, there's a lot of growing pains, like partnering with the government to make sure that these people do have access. I can see it in their typical places where they go about and searching. But overall, I think it's gonna boost our economy, especially when we start to see this um hole that will slowly start to come in the next couple of years with Sundance leaving that we have to make up for in some way, shape, or form. But then also from like an opera, like a hotel operations perspective, to smooth that out through the rest of the year and not just rely on, I mean, end of Q4, Q1. And if you don't hit your numbers, then then you know you're screwed for the rest of the year. And how do you make up for that? And then if I'm someone who's like, oh, I can come stay here, I can have my boat with me, I can go mountain bike in the day, and then the next day I can go uh boating on Jordan L, and then I can go through Oakley to go up and go camping. Like, I think it opens up a lot of other opportunities for people to see this hidden gem of northern Utah, especially like this area. Because like I've spent a lot of time in uh in Park City, Oakley, Heber, Midway, and but there's not a lot of people make it up this far. And it's usually stops at their conversation with Park City. So I'm really optimistic about it. I see how people couldn't be, it could be dubious just because most people see a lot of private dollars coming in and can usually think of some monopoly guy twisting his mustache.
SPEAKER_02:But I moved to Heber both because I thought it just seems like an incredible place to be, but but in talking with a lot of the residents, and rightfully so, they're they're nervous about it. I mean, it's in that same article I saw Wasach County is the number one county growing in Utah. And I think you told me this morning, fourth in the country. Fifth in the country. So already nervous just because of the amount of people moving in, but then you put a lot of new jobs, a lot of new visitors, you know, seven miles from from the the the heart of that. Yeah. Um, so it's gonna create some some traffic challenges. So I know everybody's working hard to try to get that figured out so that it remains such an incredible place to live. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And a really hardworking legislature that that you know is looking out for the overall economy of the state and and looking out for its communities. And uh you know, I think um MIDA, you know, around that same time that MIDA was created to help with the MWR situation, it was also um the the priority really was to save Hill Air Force Base from closing down. And, you know, when you when you think today about the fact that it generates nearly four billion dollars into the state economy um because of MITA's facilitation of building out underutilized federal land up at Hill Air Force Base, similar but very different from what we're doing here in Wasatch County. Um, we've we've brought an additional 7,000 jobs um to that area up there. And you know, the the impact financially, financially, economically, not only to those communities but to the state is critical. And again, leaning into the pride that that Utah can retain Hill, having Hill Air Force Base as a critical uh part of our defense system, uh, you know, is really important. And I heard a veteran the other day, you know, kind of reference that all of these collective areas and and across multiple MITA project areas, including this one here today that we're talking about. But, you know, we're creating professions, not just jobs. And that leans into creating the right type of housing so that people can afford to to live in these communities. And and you know, over time, all that's really coming together and I think becoming increasingly visible.
SPEAKER_01:So yeah, because Utah does have a rich history of military. I mean, yeah, you go to Miss Al Lake and you go drive up on University of Utah campus and go past the JCC, and that used to be an entire in Fort Douglas within itself. And then Hill Air Force Base. I feel like if you don't live really close to that or in the military, you don't understand its impact. Like for a work project, it was working to help understand like DOD uh childcare needs. Right. And so like it made me look at not only just um the DoD, but then also one of the places I looked at was Hill Air Force Base. I was like, oh my gosh, like I didn't know the impact of this. And then you look at like economic performance and especially economic reliability and consistency, and the military will always be there. I mean, it's one of the few things that will always go up and the budget will never come down. Um so I I I think, and especially with this of being able to nod the cap to those people and say it not only are like in in some I don't say that in some times they don't get the recognition or the support support that they deserve. It's one way that they can.
SPEAKER_00:100%.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um well, before we end, I want to ask the two questions I always ask everybody at the end of each episode. Uh number one, if either of you could have someone on the Small A City podcast and hear more about what they're up to or their story. Who would you want to hear from?
SPEAKER_00:I would get the commander of Hill Air Force Base.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh, that would be fun.
SPEAKER_00:Um and they they circle, they um cycle through every couple of years. Um so it's kind of interesting to see and hear from you know how their family's doing. That unlike Nate, who isn't allowed to ever leave, no. But but you know, how they they keep that momentum and passion up for where they're assigned and and how they bring their leadership. Um I think the Marriott family is incredible.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know if you've had them on, but we won't tell Mary about the Marriott stories.
SPEAKER_00:Um I'm a huge fan of Nathan Rafferty, who does an amazing job heading up ski.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I had him on. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:He's great.
SPEAKER_01:I love Nate.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:He's fun, like yeah, that man knows a lot about skiing and the industry and everything. He's a good guy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then I think this area has incredible nonprofits. So from the National Ability Center to um to to Peace House to so many, it's it's such a benevolent community with a lot of nonprofits. And um I think you know, one of the reasons I love this area is that I don't think there's one person I know really well that isn't associated with a nonprofit. So that whole community I think is incredible to hear from.
SPEAKER_02:A lot of people to give back.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I I have two, I mean, I've been here for um, I was looking at an A, so sorry. Are you and I did that part up. Uh I've been here for such a little amount of time, but I've met a lot of cool and interesting and great people in the community. I think if you haven't had the got these guys on, we did a partnership with the the guys who run Water Witch downtown in Salt Lake City. Um, this Sky Gardner, uh yeah, the great guys. And they partnered with us to help write our pool menu. And kind of our goal was both to be interesting because we know that they do an incredible job down there, but also to to get our name out in the Salt Lake City community. And it was a home run. And oh yeah, people recognized it. I think a lot of Salt Lake residents they wanted to get out of the heat. I didn't realize the inversion that happens in Salt Lake City, and so to be able to escape that and get up here, um, Park City is always 15, 20 degrees colder, especially in the summer.
SPEAKER_01:Like if it's a hundred degrees like I gotta go right out at sitting poolside with a cocktail that's got gardener together.
SPEAKER_02:I mean it was a home run. So excited to do that again next year. And then we hosted a gala here called Live Like Sam and a gentleman named Ron Jabbenhall, who has lived on for quite a long time. And you know, he's got a pretty incredible history. He lost his son and decided to take a little bit of a different twist and really focus on mental health, which I know is a challenge here for kids in Utah. And so he's a pretty incredible guy with a big personality, so he'd probably be great on the box.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, don't tell me it's a good time. Yeah, a lot of people forget that Salt Lake is right in the middle of what's called the suicide belt, and it's I'm glad that there's a lot of people, again, going like your point of nonprofits, Kristen, that people are trying to make it as aware as possible. And I mean, I've had two friends this year pass away from suicide, and it's even you sit at those funerals, you're like, I don't want to I don't ever do this again, but you find yourself doing it again and you ask the same questions. So the more people they can give back and help give the resources that people need, the better.
SPEAKER_00:Could you well and I'm very sorry to hear that. And it is a crisis, and it's people like Ron, who I met just randomly on a chair lift.
SPEAKER_02:Well, he calls himself the king of Kimball Junction, the mayor or Kib the Janchadine.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I was I was blown away that he was so open and candid and willing to share his story, lost his son in a ski, a terrible ski accident. But he gravitated toward, you know, I think identified early on. It's people like Ron that are destigmatizing issues like that. And that, and we need more of that. And we need more of us to embrace um causes like that. And I, you know, I see this community doing it, you know, time and time again. Making making skiing accessible, you know, we're we're involved in making it accessible for the military, but there's so many of our children's classmates that it's not accessible. And there's some tremendous programs out there that are doing that. So um, and a lot of good community leadership making it happen. So yeah, I think shining a light on that is would be awesome.
SPEAKER_01:And we talked a little bit about the last question. We talked a little bit about where people can go to find information. But if people generally want to find more information about Grand Hyatt, what's coming up, what to look forward to, uh, or if you are um an eligible military member, where's the best place to go for information?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so the Grand Hyatt Deer Valley homepage.
SPEAKER_02:Grand Hyatt Deer Valley website, correct. Grandhyatt.deervalley.com.
SPEAKER_00:And then Maidaut.org. We also carry the information and more about Maida.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, you find out more about as well. Yeah. Chris and this has been great. I love the the privilege I get to have where I can just go be curious about something and then I get to go ask the people who are in charge of it and find out. So thanks so much. I'm excited for what's to come. I'm gonna keep an eye on the broader area and see how it's gonna make an impact for not just people here, but everybody around the world and especially our military members. So thank you so much for all you're doing.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks, Sarah. Thank you for being curious.
SPEAKER_01:If you need a place to record, you can always come up here. Just just hit me up with my band. Don't tell me it's a good time. I was looking for fun new places.
