S1, E84: The Comedy Church - Adam Broud

What happens when a former Mormon decides to turn his religious upbringing into comedy gold? Adam Broud joins us to share his fascinating journey from rural poverty to BYU graduate to the co-founder of Comedy Church, a unique comedy experience that playfully examines religious upbringings without resorting to faith-bashing.

Growing up poor with limited exposure to higher education, Adam never imagined he'd find himself on comedy stages across the country. His path took an unexpected turn when fellow comedian Greg Kyte approached him about co-hosting Comedy Church, creating a space where they could use humor to process their religious pasts. What began as local shows has expanded to performances nationwide, where they explore not just Mormon experiences but regional religious identities from Judaism in New York to evangelical backgrounds in Texas.

Our conversation delves into the complex relationship between comedy and religion, particularly how the same jokes land differently in Utah versus other parts of the country. "In Utah, people think I have it out for the church," Adam explains, "but when I perform the exact same material elsewhere, audiences are surprised by how gentle I am toward religion." This dichotomy reflects the heightened sensitivities that exist in post-Mormon spaces and how religious identity remains deeply intertwined with personal identity.

We also explore the surprising national fascination with Mormon culture—from "soaking" to dirty soda shops—and how these peculiarities have become cultural touchpoints that outsiders find endlessly fascinating. Adam notes that while Utah comedians often worry their Mormon material won't translate outside the state, he frequently finds the opposite to be true: audiences across America are hungry for these unique perspectives.

Whether you're post-religious, curious about Mormon culture, or simply appreciate thoughtful comedy, Adam's journey from mission-bound Mormon to boundary-pushing comedian offers a window into how humor can help us process our pasts while creating community in the present.

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Chapters

• 1:48 Meeting Adam Browd and Comedy Church
• 4:52 Salt Lake vs Provo Culture Clash
• 13:52 Growing Up Poor and Finding BYU
• 21:10 The Comedian's Journey Begins
• 36:05 Starting Comedy Church with Greg
• 51:50 Touring Beyond Utah and Theological Heckles
• 1:17:26 Final Thoughts and Show Details

Transcript

Speaker 1: 1:38

What is up everybody and welcome back to another episode of the Small Lake City Podcast. I'm your host, eric Nilsen, and this week's guest is none other than Adam Browd. Now, adam Browd is most known locally for the work that he has done with Greg Kite in starting his own comedy series called Comedy Church, where him, greg and others make light of their previous Mormon lives, not in a way to bash the church but a way to make fun of their lives that they previous lived. They take it around the country to also shine lights on regionally religious activity like Judaism in New York or the Bible Belt in the South, as a way to make light of their religious upbringings. But on top of this, adam performs in a multitude of other places and travels the country as well to still perform his own comedy acts. So we talk about him growing up in rural Southern Oregon to moving to Utah, to go to BYU, to get his MBA at BYU and what he's up to now. So definitely a great conversation, obviously a funny guy. This is one you're going to enjoy.

Speaker 1: 2:37

Great convo with me and Adam. But without any further ado, enjoy this conversation with me and him. Oh wait, how do you say your last name. Is it Browd Brude? It's Browd Browd. Yeah, it's like Proud, but with a B I'm Browd. With a B, yeah, so you're a Proud boy.

Speaker 2: 2:50

It is awkward. I got two sons and sometimes we'll worry out and about the father.

Speaker 1: 3:00

Anybody else is like come on kids. Yeah, they're like. They induct members that are this Unless you're down in Utah County or Davis County, they're like my people. I'm like brother Not the kind of brother I like to give for people?

Speaker 2: 3:11

Yeah, and then you just start shouting black people are cool and people are like.

Speaker 1: 3:16

I don't know what this is, and as they grab their kids, like you didn't mean it, honey, this is still still in public. Well, like the one thing, like because I've been been able to remain mentally stable through the last almost two months now. Shooting the crowd, but shooting the crowd. And there was one day I was in florida on a work trip and I checked instagram. There's this post of these kids in utah county, like saratoga springs, like tearing pride flags down, jeez. And I was like don't look at the comments, don't look at the comments. This is like the des that posted it. And I was like I gotta look at the comment. And it was like don't look at the comments, don't look at the comments, this is like the dads that posted it. And I was like I gotta look at the comment and it was like good kids, they were raised right, they did this. I'm like jeez bless so many hearts.

Speaker 2: 3:50

Well, that's where I live. I live in Provo and I've got this beautiful view. If I go out on my back porch of Weimelt, it's only ruined by the five Trump flags right in front of it. You just look down my street and it's just like Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. And they've been there basically since the first time he got elected. They never took him down, they just stuck it around. They're like my guy. I'm like. This guy does not give a shit about you. Kind of the opposite.

Speaker 1: 4:17

Yes, Well, it's probably one of those Christmas tree mentalities. They're like well, we're putting it up now.

Speaker 2: 4:22

What I'm not supposed to celebrate. My favorite today in the century, every day.

Speaker 1: 4:25

Well then they're like oh, you know I could take it down, but I'm just gonna have to put it back up again. And then they take it down. Oh, I'm just gonna have to put it. Is it gonna do a third time?

Speaker 2: 4:45

So you know how many wives are. Like is hung in their like bay window living room for forever, like in the window, like you chose to have that like block your beautiful view and block like the view of your front yard where your grandkids play. And I was like you don't. You don't sense the poetry in any of this at all, but you've literally put up a barrier between you and the world. It's your mistaken ideals. Are those prayer?

Speaker 1: 5:04

mats in front of the rice and curd of Christ. It's like, yeah, no, it's a whole dynamic. And even when I because I don't go down to Utah County hardly ever anymore I used to because I ran a little job. I know Fars, but like when I did, I'd almost have to like get part of the mountain and be like all right. We just got to like reassess what's about to happen in the next few hours and realize it's not Because I always joke like I'm a Salt Lake citizen, I'm not a Utahan. Like the further I get away from Salt Lake, I'm like, eh, not like you just made me do a.

Speaker 2: 5:30

U-turn. See, most of the only place I've really lived in Utah is Provo, because I came out here for BYU. I just got stuck or moved away and came back like a couple times. So it's all I know. But also, like everyone I know is, uh, I mean they've all left the church, they're all pretty progressive, all that sort of stuff. So it's weird because I always perform in salt lake and then you tell me like I'm from provo people like it's got to be so weird. And I'm always like it's, it's not.

Speaker 2: 5:57

It feels like here to me and you guys calling provo lame feels very much so like the band nerds telling the the like va equipment kids that they're real dorks or something, where like maybe we're all just virgins to accept it. Uh, but yeah, but I think I got, like I get, yeah, I very much so. Get like a, a different skew out there, plus I, I mean all you have to do is go to a coffee shop, oh yeah, and you're safe again. Well, I could. I mean all you have to do is go to a coffee shop, oh yeah, and you're safe again. Well, I could. I mean I, I do a joke for coming to your people where I talk about it, but the coffee shops in utah are gayer than any. Like gay bar in san francisco, like just walk in and it was like no one here has natural hair color. This is fantastic. It's wonderful. So, yeah, I just think all the coffee shops, I'm like my people and that's the thing too.

Speaker 1: 6:41

I've talked to a lot of people about the Provo or even just Utah County in general. I'm like you live down there, what's going on? Yeah, but I have my people. It's not like I'm just like, all right, let's go, knock doors and go. It makes just sense.

Speaker 2: 6:53

It's just those moments where the paths collide. I did a show at the O the other week. It was great. It was a family-friendly live show sort of thing. I had to book it early but I found out later, so I was like, hey, it turned out the General Early Society president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was here and guess what she said you were her favorite comedian, told her not to look up the rest of my stuff, take Google away. Yeah, if I was like, but that's so nice, that's really cool, which I think it's like a fun sort of moment. Or like when the protests were happening for Black Lives Matter back in the day, like that was crazy. Do you remember hearing about that guy in Provo who got shot?

Speaker 2: 7:30

Very late, I can't remember it, it was just there was a protest going on. He was literally like I have to get to Lowe's and he refused to, like, go a block around around the protest. So he started pushing his way through into people. People got belligerent as well and we're like you can't go through here, we've blocked the road. So it's kind of a situation where it's like no one's right, but I don't know, someone's choosing to escalate, but someone's choosing to escalate exactly. So it's like, no, this is didn't start as tough, but it's uh like a easy place. But hit in reverse, this and turning right is so easy, man, yeah, it's so easy. But anyway, he decided to go straight and he started pushing through people, which is very scary.

Speaker 2: 8:08

Well, fucking shot, someone shot him and he drove off and he survived, as if he later ran for mayor, basically under the platform of like I got shot once, which is a crazy platform to be like, put me in charge, I drive over people and get shot, but the kids? I'm like, I just want the airport to be better, I don't know what to tell you, and so anyway, but uh, but that was like a situation where, right after that happened, the protests were happening. It was no big deal, because I think you know mormon standard niceties are like let people do their thing, yeah, but as soon as things escalated to that point the next day there are so many guys out in tactical gear. There's someone on top of like the doTERRA building with a sniper rifle and like you're gonna try to shoot us, we'll just use lavender to cure us, dude, that's like you think. I don't believe in this. I have no faith in god, but in lavender we trust.

Speaker 2: 8:54

And so there were just all these people in tactical gear and I feel like that was such, and it was like accepted as well. Like all of a sudden, people started talking way more about like let's build bridges with the officers. I'm like nothing has been fixed, what are you talking about? And so, anyway, so there are moments that like especially in Provo, that like there's always this, we need to be nice, and then as soon as that shifts, I mean you can see the tribes just immediately Like you know, yeah, it's like this smile and all of a sudden the smile goes away.

Speaker 2: 9:28

The claws come out, you're like it's like I'm like a gremlin, you know. It's like all of a sudden you douse them in modern like yeah, yeah, I don't know, I gave them just a little bit of saccharine cup and all of a sudden we're going crazy for it. Yeah, it's kind of like that. I mean it's also freaky because you know it's the same people are like hey, you know what, that's your choice, it's no big deal. And it's like I'm pretty sure you're the one who called the bomb threat on the drag brunch the other week or whatever. Like I get your slice of jokes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which I don't know. I don't know if you feel this, but I do think, utah, a unique thing about it is that, like, the worst thing you can be here is rude. Like it's not like racist or anything like that. It's just been kind of rude, like if someone like is racist and someone like screams at them, they're like hey, hey, hey, you shouldn't be yelling at people, no matter what happens.

Speaker 2: 10:09

Or like this guy was just and you're upset about the yelling. He wasn't allowed. Yeah, you can't be rude. I think it's the greatest culture. It's weird.

Speaker 1: 10:23

Greatest, greatest culture. Oh so, yeah, as long as everyone's just being as anxious as possible about whatever's going on and just like can't with anything. Yeah, just a couple. Did we ever see the movie the? Oh my gosh. The one that just came out with the missionaries? Yeah, heritage like that. Like, because there ain't no movie that like portrays Mormon missionaries did as good as that. Because these girls are like I think he wants to kill you. They're like yeah, buddy, you gave us cake. We can't.

Speaker 2: 10:45

No, yeah, dude, but like little small nice I want so bad. I wish I could have watched that movie with like a non-Mormon group as well like never been Mormon just to see if they laughed at the same things. That like watching it with a bunch of ex-warrior people did, you know? Because there were moments like that, yeah, when they were trying to leave, they're like I can't just leave now, and everyone's like that's the most authentic thing you could have said in that moment for more minutes. Yeah, I wonder if they would have even be like right, or if they would be like all right, they're being cheesy with it. I'm like no, that's, that's a miss. Do you own a mission?

Speaker 2: 11:18

I saw that yeah, yeah, seriously, yeah, I taught this lady from my Wishful let's who. I was on a split and so I wasn't supposed to be with the guy that I was, but he was like she's progressing, she's awesome, she loves us. I was like cool, let's go chat with her. She opened up the door and she had a silk, which one called not gown that, gown that gown sort of thing. Uh on, and yeah it was. She had candles burning in the back place, smelled good. She had her bedroom door open where there was a photo of her in the nude and she just like opened the door and her eyes went big and she went where's the other one? I was like he's in a different area today and I'm visiting today today and she was like okay, hold on, Shut the door, blew out all the candles and was like come on in.

Speaker 2: 12:06

And that completely different attitude. And what's crazy to me is we went in and we were like we can't just not do the lesson. She welcomed us into her home, even though it was so obvious Like we have to have a meeting, Got to get her to church yeah, to get her to church.

Speaker 1: 12:19

Yeah, she's escalating. She's almost there. Yeah, let's get her on date too. Yeah, oh, adam brow. No, I'm excited because, like I mean, when you reached out, it was fun because, like, there's so many things that like, if you follow me on my well, if you were to see my feed on instagram, you'll see the things I follow versus the things I follow on, like the podcast one and like one is like a good handful of like I mean local comedians to begin with, but also like things that are post-mormon, like not super strong, but like let's just make fun of this press, say any of this, yeah, and. And so it was always fun to see that and see what you guys have built and done. So when you reached out, I was like, yep, oh, thank you come on in, yeah, it's been so fun.

Speaker 2: 12:57

I mean, yeah, it's, it's always tricky. It's so so interesting stand-up in Salt Lake. Because there's so much pressure to not talk about local stuff because people feel like everyone's going to talk about local stuff. And then when you do talk about I mean mostly religion and stuff and Mormonism, when you do talk about Mormonism and stand-up, it's so interesting how many local comics are. Like I can't really do that.

Speaker 1: 13:23

Isn't everyone going to do?

Speaker 2: 13:23

that I'm like not everybody does it, not everybody does it the same way. And then they always will say something effective like but you can't travel with that right. And it's so funny because as soon as I go out of state, people want to know about Mormonism more than they want to know about Mormonism in Utah.

Speaker 2: 13:37

Like there's some crowds that'll start on a mormon joke and I'll stop because I'm like you guys want a break from this yeah whereas I I did, uh, toronto not too long ago and somebody interrupted my set because they're like, can you please just talk about soaking? And I was like sure, and I had to like do a complete pivot and like remember my soaking jokes that I'd written and performed a little bit and stuff like that. But it was so funny how, uh, yeah, the perception where people like no one wants to hear about salt lake and I'm like you don't understand how crazy and interesting people find this place. Totally, as soon as I say literally in toronto, as soon as the person announced like we've got a visiting comic here from salt lake city, everyone in the crowd went oh. And I was like never has salt lake city gotten like a oh, as far as I've been aware, for anywhere I've ever traveled. But yeah, when I travel, people want to hear about it more than anything else.

Speaker 1: 14:30

Well, it's interesting to see how there's this lens that's cast on it now that it's like it's like this Sauron eye almost sat in Frodo put on the ring in Utah and Sauron's like, oh yeah, cause like you have, I mean, the secret lives of mormon wives. You had housewives you had sold on us. We'll see what just came out, but you know four or five different documentaries under the banner of heaven.

Speaker 2: 14:51

Yeah, the white brigham young one that's going on. Did you say that one already? One that was on netflix?

Speaker 1: 14:54

oh, um forget what that's called, the one like, like the pioneers. Yeah, yeah, that one oh pretty cool.

Speaker 2: 14:59

what was it called? I don't remember what that's called. And then people start looking at it and they start digging further back and they're like have you ever heard of this show called my Husband is Gay? It's stuff like that. Have you heard of that one? Yeah, that was like TLC, I think forever ago. And it's like yeah, that's Utah.

Speaker 1: 15:12

That's like so in.

Speaker 2: 15:17

they're like oh, we got a live one or something else about it well, especially I mean in comedy, so many as so much of stand-up is centered around new york and then secondarily, la and austin, maybe even the second at this point, but uh, but it's like la and new york, especially if you get a traveling comedian. I and I gotta say I get so tired of hearing new york comedians coming from new york and just talk about new york. They're like I see it in movies, I see it on the TV shows. The last thing I want to hear is you talk about this place that, quite frankly, no one here cares about. I know you think everyone wants to be there.

Speaker 1: 15:51

I went there once on my senior trip for high school yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:53

I mean, I go to New York all the time and I love New York, but I am like no one here cares that the subway kind of sucks sometimes, dude, nobody cares at all. And so I think also people when I go to a show, I think sometimes they're like relieved to hear about something that's they, they know a kernel of it and they want to know a lot more about it, and it's something that they don't feel like they have easy access to, the way that they would like a comic from new york or something like that especially in such like an easy way of comedy, like there's no other way to hear about any topic.

Speaker 1: 16:22

Let's just, let's just do this in a jestful manner, oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 16:24

And I mean most of comedy. Church people sometimes ask where they're like so you guys, just when they don't know the show. I think their expectation is we're going to go up there and we're going to be like here's a joke, fuck God, do you get it? And it's like no, centered around like my past and my co-host, greg, his past and stuff like that. So most of the time we're just making fun of ourselves. And then it happens that if a religious person listens to it and they're like hey, I identify with that, so you're making fun of me, and I'm like, yeah, sorry man, but you could equally just be like I hear what you're saying, I don't identify with that, and I'd be like great, then it's not about you, that's fine too yeah, you probably don't get it, that's okay.

Speaker 1: 16:58

or you just don't get it, that's okay, or you just don't get it.

Speaker 2: 17:00

That's true. Many is about you. You just didn't understand.

Speaker 1: 17:02

It's so it's interesting to be like, especially like I mean on the topic of like Mormonism and jokes and comedy, like the thing that's always funny is whenever the book of Mormon comes to Salt Lake. Oh yeah, I just went to that.

Speaker 2: 17:16

It's so like I got recognized in the in public. I started walking past and someone goes hey, wait, aren't you that comedy church boy? Comedy church boy Deacon. Thank you very much, but it was good, but I've never been called the comedy church boy. You're the comedy church boy, aren't you Like? I, like a badass, I do. It was very fun though. But yeah, the musical comes through. It was very fun though.

Speaker 1: 17:40

But yeah, the musical comes through. It's so great and like, cause I saw it in Salt Lake the first, I mean years ago now, but it's funny to compare notes with people who saw it like in other places, even New York, cause, oh yeah, so many of the jokes just like don't land in the same way, oh really. Or as in Salt Lake every joke lands, everybody gets every joke. But at the same time, when I went there and then all of a sudden I see this couple kind of get up and I was like they're not coming back. Is that they didn't come back? I was like, yeah, we'll do a little research of what you're getting yourself. At least listen to the soundtrack. This is a horrible adaptation.

Speaker 2: 18:37

this doesn't align with what I believe in at all yeah, there's a lot of things like that, though I think it's so interesting. I went, uh, to wait, wait, don't tell me npr. Wait, wait, don't tell me you listen to that at all. It's like the game show about the news and stuff like that. Tame fun NPR, yeah. Anyway, at the beginning, at the top of theirs, they were like Salt Lake is maybe our favorite place to come, and the reason is because we never feel more hardcore than going to Salt Lake. Everywhere else we go, it's always like the elderly in the audience and people's progressive grandfather donating five bucks out the door and stuff. But Salt Lake's the only place that this is a protest to come to an NPR show. So everyone shows up tatted and decked out in piercings and stuff. They're like we feel so cool. We come to Salt Lake Because, yeah, I'm like that's the culture. You got to stand out, you got to choose it. Yeah, welcome to our little club.

Speaker 1: 19:30

Yeah gotta stand out, you gotta like choose it. No, yeah, welcome. Welcome to our little club. Yeah, it's an mpr bitch.

Speaker 2: 19:32

Oh yeah, I'm just so much mpr you don't even know yeah, I've got, I've got, I've got the patreon little qr code tattooed right here stand here to subscribe.

Speaker 1: 19:42

yeah, so I'm like not born and raised in salvaic, but did you come here for byu or go okay?

Speaker 2: 19:49

Yeah, yeah, I grew up like super poor and so no one I knew like really had gone to college or anything like that. So the only thing I ever remember hearing about college, like I remember, uh, I was always in, like I was always in the class like the accelerated classes and stuff. So the expectation was everybody go to college. But I also think a part of that is because, you know, rich kids can afford services that put them into those accelerated classes, yeah. And so I think I just always got like grouped in with these kids where the assumption is like everybody got money here, so you're going to go to college.

Speaker 2: 20:23

But at the same time, I always remember people talking about how expensive it was. And you know, my family finances were my responsibility as well as a kid. So as soon as I hear something's expensive, I was like, oh, I get it, Not for me. So I had no plans really to go to college. Honestly, I thought I was going to die on my mission. I felt like I had a premonition that I was like I'm supposed to die on my mission. That's what's supposed to get a good out. I'm going to go straight to the celestial kingdom.

Speaker 2: 20:45

Literally, and I was like, nice, I was stoked for it. I was like, hey, this is the lot that I've pulled in life and it's okay. Then I ended my mission. I was like, what the fuck did I do? That's not supposed to happen.

Speaker 2: 20:55

I thought I was one of your favorites, you didn't need to kill me, and so I had no plans really to go to college. But then, growing up as well, always hearing about BYU, it was the only college that was ever referenced as being cheap. People always loved that, because that's also kind of Mormon culture, it's being cheap. And so it was always like, yeah, it's so cheap, it's so affordable, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I was like, oh, I guess that's the only college I can go to, right, and I didn't know anybody else who'd really gone to college. My sister went to college for like a semester at BYU at that point, and so she was like I can help you apply. She did, cause I didn't even know how to do that. So, yeah. So I went to BYU cause it was so cheap and uh, yeah, did my undergrad there. Uh, moved away in psychology out of Florida and then I moved back because it didn't go well and my, my advisor checked out, was just like you're on your own. I was like I just got here.

Speaker 2: 21:51

So I did a year and was like, nevermind, I'm not going to do it, moved back, did my MBA as well at BYU Cause one more time MBAs are crazy expensive, but not at BYU. So I did it there, moved, moved away for a job, moved back for a different job, ended up getting fired from that job and started doing comedy full-time instead. So so it's been like coming back and forth and stuff. But yeah, originally out here for for the school and I just made all my connections here. You know, like people sometimes are like you do comedy, why didn't you leave and stuff, or like, because anytime I have left, people immediately are like I'm going to find you a reason to come back here, and they do.

Speaker 2: 22:23

That's very compelling and I have great friends and fucking sucks to have such good. No, they're awesome but but it just keeps pulling me back in and I'm not sad. I'm never sad for it. Like utah's great, but I I wish utah had more pride in itself. Honestly, uh, I've lived in the, the like main states that I've lived where uh, outside utah was ohio and oregon and it's so wild to me seeing especially ohio. The amount of like pride people have in ohio is nuts like to this day I can tell you, like the names of the presidents there's eight of them that that we're ohioans like. I can tell you the state, bird, animal drink, like all this stuff, like it's crazy how indoctrinated they are to just be like ohio's the best, fuck michigan sort of like attitude about everything.

Speaker 2: 23:11

Uh, I didn't ask you at the beginning if I can swear so, but you haven't stopped me so, as long as it's not like a middle schooler swearing okay, sort of shit, uh, and so, yeah, it uh just all that pride, and then utah, uh it's yeah, I mean I assume it's just because of the classical clash of cultures most there, but it does like hurt my heart sometimes that utah, more than any place else I've lived, has this like no profit in their own country, sort of mentality where, like everyone loved imagine dragons and then they got popular and people like god, I hate imagine dragons or uh, yeah, kind of almost anything. If it grows and crumble, I think is a great example, where it's like homegrown and as soon as it started getting bigger, people are like they're not even good. I'm like it's literally sugar, salt and fat. You can't. You can say you don't like it, but you can't tell me it's not good that's we're by a lot of program to enjoy that.

Speaker 1: 24:02

yeah, exactly, I like't tell me it's not good. That's we buy a lot of Bo-Ram to enjoy that.

Speaker 2: 24:04

Yeah, exactly, I'm like. Just tell me your Andorrax are pickets. Like there's no way that you can explain to me this is a mix-up.

Speaker 1: 24:09

I feel like people even pulled the like of mice and men on Cafe Rio, like everybody used to be, like Cafe Rio's the greatest thing in the world.

Speaker 2: 24:23

And it is so good. That's what's crazy. I'm like this is a fast, casual place that kicks ass, compared to so many other fast casual places where people are like other places are like raisin canes is finally here. I'm like you're gonna put, you're gonna put fucking raisin canes up against the god-sent manna from heaven, cafe rio. That's what you're coming to pay out. Oh wait, okay, yeah, it's when you block someone, delete their number and yeah, so it. It's wild to me that people just yeah, for whatever reason, if it comes from Utah, it's like got a tinge of hmm.

Speaker 1: 24:49

And it's like it's always like this apologetic like because, like I love living here. I've gone through my whole process of like do you want to be here, do you want to be here, do you want to be there? Sold, but then, like there's so many people who have this like apologetic, like went from. Yeah, sorry, it's so weird. Yeah, sorry, this happens, yeah sorry. Then, like, which is honestly like fitting for the culture. I'm like, oh, I don't want to be keeping coming to us. You should apologize, everything away.

Speaker 2: 25:12

That's true yeah, I'm not going to fix it. At the same time I will apologize too that this exists. But yeah, that's very true and especially compared to like I got. The place that I call like home, that I say I'm from is Southern Oregon, which is like Medford. Okay, so it's like super conservative area in a blue state and all this sort of stuff. I mean they've got all sorts of weird stuff down there. They want to separate from the state of Oregon with the northern part of California and create a new state called State of Jefferson. You listen to npr in the rogue valley where I'm from in medford. They even say they started off. They go it's a great morning here in the state of jefferson the jefferson public radio, that's what they call it interesting. Like that's pretty weird, right, like that's crazy. No one apologizes. So if you tell someone like so you guys want to separate, be your own state for seemingly not very good reasons, people are like fun, huh, are you against it? Yeah, people, not even argumentative People are like yeah, pretty fun.

Speaker 1: 26:10

Could you imagine if one day they're like whoever's president's, like you know what. We're taking applications, whoever wants to break off, whoever wants to start their own thing? You got like 30 days to put in a proposal.

Speaker 2: 26:21

Dude, it might happen, but we'll probably be surprised. But for Utah, yeah, I'm always surprised how apologetic people are about everything except the skiing. I will say no one apologizes for that. Yeah, I've never seen Utahns throw hands the way they will as soon as someone's like it's pretty good skiing in Colorado, right On the other side of the Rockies. Sure you think that wet shit cuts it all of a sudden.

Speaker 1: 26:46

You just see this like parking lot of people starts to start running.

Speaker 2: 26:49

This guy's saying the cook listening to their ties like tell the wife I'm going to be late for sacrament.

Speaker 1: 26:55

Where'd you get that crowbar? Disagree? That's pretty much signing it look yeah, it's like the one thing.

Speaker 2: 27:04

But yeah, and it genuinely makes me sad because I think there's so much good stuff here, comedy included, the comedy scene in salt lake as like a city, because I I mean, like I said, I travel around- and I hear that a lot from traveling comedians because, like there's a lot of places like, yeah, cool, like obviously go to new york or la or like any of the major cities.

Speaker 1: 27:23

Like, yeah, there's places you go. There's a lot of places like, yeah, cool, like obviously go to New York or LA or like any of the major cities. Yeah, there's places you go, there's going to be shows. But yeah, it's nice with Salt Lake, where it's like this kind of direct path through that a lot of people go to and then like what I mean Keith?

Speaker 2: 27:34

Stubbs is done with Wise Guys and just get it. It's like, oh, it's just an amazing, that's that strong. I've been surprised when I've been traveling and people are like we've got a great local opener for you and it almost never works out Like no offense to so many cities out there, but so many of the comedians who get stage time, it seems, even in these seemingly big cities. And I think what it is if I had to hypothesize not like that's what I'm going to pretend, like I think what it is is I, I think what this is. I think these other big cities no one gives a shit if they leave.

Speaker 2: 28:03

Like I don't think they have the familial cultural bond that like Utah and Salt Lake has. Because, like I don't know, if you go, do you go generationally back Mormon yeah, you do, okay, I don't. But my wife does Okay, and so if she were to leave Utah, she is literally leaving like her family's past for forever. Yeah, and you don't, I, I mean, I feel like I don't hear that when I lived in tampa I didn't hear, because I'm like a wee subtle tempo you know those original colonies?

Speaker 2: 28:34

yeah, that's my great-great-great-great-grandfather everybody flashing their tits at the buccaneer parade. My grandfather created ballots. One's doing that in tampa. But salt lake people like hey know the Beehive House I had a great-grandmother who was entrapped there or whatever it is that they got for a story, and so it's like such a people get tied or brought back like I do as well, and people build stuff here as well, the way that I don't feel like they always build in other places, and so I feel like there's these ties that like really do keep people here in a way that I don't other places.

Speaker 2: 29:07

So you get these, these other big cities where it's like, oh, if you make it big in phoenix, like that's another place, like, if you start making a big phoenix in phoenix, the assumption is you just go to la, because why wouldn't you come travel back to phoenix? No one cares, yeah, same thing. But you don't have that in salt lake. You have to travel pretty far to go to get out and then you're like leaving everything. So instead you get these people stick around, they start building stuff, and I think it's because of that that a lot of people who get really good, they're still here yeah and that's what happens.

Speaker 2: 29:34

Yeah, for comedy there's, there are so many good comedians who compete on a national platform, even because we got like Drybar right, and I think people can make the argument where they're like well, drybar is not like the best comedians out there and I would say it doesn't matter. There's millions of people watching these people and, regardless, so often the people who move up the ranks and the views are a lot of Utah natives or a lot of people who are kind of based out of Utah, at least for their standup, so who are kind of based out of Utah, at least for their stand-up.

Speaker 1: 30:06

So yeah, the stand-up scene here is so good, so good. It's something I'm super proud of. Like there's one guy who I actually got to know when I was in high school and younger because we were rolling together, like Shane Dozer. Oh yeah, Like it was weird because I knew him when I was in middle school and high school. He's living in New Jersey or somewhere right.

Speaker 2: 30:20

I can school. He's living like new jersey or something I can't remember. Sorry, he started to follow him. Um, he still pops up here every now and then oh yeah, I was trying to show. He walked past the window. We were like are you trying to find this? And he's like, nope, usually yes, but not to zeit.

Speaker 1: 30:33

He's a hard guy to miss, yeah. But so I like knew him, like through this one aspect, go on my mission and come back and I'm like, oh, that's that guy, because, again, hard to miss, yeah, and if you don't know why he's hard to miss, just go look up his Instagram and it'll make sense.

Speaker 2: 30:50

But severely tattooed and no Catholic. Yes, bryce. Anyway, I thought it was a joke. So too, until he posted the baptism and I was like, oh, why not?

Speaker 1: 31:04

Even then I was like still like I know enough about catholicism. Maybe this is your, look one of my friends. I'll never forget this. It was like 10 ish years ago. There was this guy I did summer sales with in college, like he was in my fraternity. We were great friends, like roommates, through it all there is a utah center, these four?

Speaker 2: 31:14

yeah, that was just like that was.

Speaker 1: 31:15

Like you're using keyword searches mark that off your bingo cars. And so we come back and he had his girlfriend. But then, uh, april 1st comes along, okay, they post a thing on facebook, because the facebook was still a main thing then and they're like, hey, uh, we're pregnant and we're getting married, yeah. And I text him like bullshit, april fools, like you would never blah blah. And he's kind of like, yeah, man, it's happening. Like, yeah, yeah, talk to you tomorrow. I love that. And then, like a week later, I went down to City Creek and I saw his ride to be and I was like, well, actually I was like random, not named girl, good joke, like really was shotting already. Well then, that's what she goes. She's like Eric, look at me, I'm pregnant. And I was like you're like my bad, but also like you're bad too.

Speaker 2: 32:02

No, I gotta say when I can I try to announce big news on April 1st I think that's the new meta joke is you wait, you save whatever you got and you just test it out. That's how you test swatters, Because if you come out with it where you're like, hey, I'm getting remarried because I got this woman pregnant, or whatever, and people are like ha ha ha, Can you imagine I would hate you forever and you're like big joke, Never Real big joke. Anyway, two months from now, I've got an announcement. Let's see you guys with a slightly different story to it. But yeah, I think I announced, like I've announced when I was moving, I've announced when I'm moving back. I think I announced when I was starting my PhD as well, on April 1st, every single time, just so people could be like what's going on there?

Speaker 1: 32:47

Like wait till April, Spectrum, like fine deal, but do you remember Rick and Morty? Yeah, okay, so I was watching some. I always go back to Rick and Morty and don't have anything to watch and Jerry gets dropped off at like the Jerry daycare yeah, and we'll get back to it. And like he's there and he's like what am I doing? And all the Jerry's like, what are we doing here? They're like, well, look something to describe this. And they're just getting kind of. And then he's like, well, why can't I leave, like you can leave whenever you want to.

Speaker 1: 33:25

And then people either go and they're like oh, it's hard to make friends with people. I don't know what to do. I'm gonna come back. Well, then there's like I mean for me, for example, I was, I left, I was like if it was my family, and utah was actually pretty great, whereas when I was like a kid who was always this, I'd see people move who are older. I'm like you got it, you got out, you did it, yeah, and they come back like you escaped. Why would you come back? Yeah, and the next thing you know, you become that person. You're like listen, you don't know how good you got until you're in Tampa.

Speaker 2: 33:53

Yeah, until you're in Tampa. Well, I think, especially if you live in Salt Lake, right, I think I that I lived in pretty rural areas for the most part. So, like I remember moving from Ohio to Oregon and when we got to Medford we were like you hate Jefferson, yeah, that's right, but we got to stay at Jefferson. We got to Medford, we, uh, we were so stoked cause I was like, oh my gosh, they have a mall here. We've hit the big town. Guys Like I was thrilled cause we used to have to drive 45 minutes to go to a mall. We had to drive like 25 minutes to get to a Walmart and stuff like that. So all of a sudden I was like the big city, medford, oregon, amazing sort of situation.

Speaker 2: 34:31

But I assume, if you live in a city where you would expect to have more things, and Salt Lake is like a smaller city, you know, and it's not very like. I mean a critique for Salt Lake is I wish that the downtown that was like more centralized and some of that stuff. Um, like Boise is crazy to me. I was up in Boise this last summer doing a show and I don't know how much time you spent in Boise. It's a decent up, but their downtown is like compact in terms of like here's a brewery next to a brewery, next to whatever cool thing you have Like it's a series of eight blocks that just all their cool shit stays on, and I'm a little envious of that sometimes. So I can kind of get where I'm like, yeah, there's stuff to improve in Salt Lake, but for the most part, 100%. You leave and then people are like, oh, it was honestly I gave it a lot of shit, but it really was just a city, in some ways a pretty good one. So yeah, I love it. I think it's great.

Speaker 1: 35:22

So what? So I'm always curious of how comedians get into comedy, because I mean, there's always the people that's like hey, you're pretty funny, you should do some time, sure. And I mean, and every white guy in his 30s usually is like listen, I'm funny.

Speaker 2: 35:37

I could do. Every time I do it, people, I've always thought about doing this, which is so, which is so funny to me. It is always funny to me. Anyone who's like I've always thought about doing it. I'm like you don't need a degree for this, you don't need literally anything but to do this. It's the same way where people are like he's a professional comedian. I'm like no one gave me a certification of comedian, I just started talking and didn't shut up. That's all that happened. Right, so it right. So it is always funny to me where it's like there's literally nothing that has such a low barrier of entry outside of just, you know, probably ego, I guess.

Speaker 2: 36:13

I assume that's why most people don't try it if they really want to. I think they're just scared where they're like. But what if they reject me? I'm like that's what you're signing up for. More than making people laugh, you're signing up for rejection and figuring out the core puzzle pieces, that like where you aren't rejected, and then you're putting them all together and be like like me, like that's all it is sort of thing.

Speaker 2: 36:31

But uh, there I got. I got started. You know till, as old as time, in some ways middle child of five and so you gotta be loud and uh, yeah, and I was definitely always like the funny kid growing up and stuff, um, but I first did stand up when I was in high school and this was something very cool that Oregon does for speech and debate and all things. There's a, there's a group called after dinner speaking and it's just stand up comedy. The way they described it was like uh, you have to write a six minute original monologue that is comedic in nature on one topic. It's like oh, you want a six minute set, that's all.

Speaker 2: 37:06

Here comes my bit literally and so I wrote mine and um, and I performed it and it went well. And then I kept modifying it and because it was like a high school speech and debate competition, you go school to school to school performing the same bit and competing and you get feedback from people about what went well and what didn't go well and blah, blah, blah, blah. And so I did it all that year and I went to state and I got second place, lost to the kid who was performing a bunch in front of a bunch of teenagers, and his whole bit was about having the sexual disease. Talk with your parents and it's tough to especially more like I can't do with.

Speaker 2: 37:40

It is yeah, you know, like he said, vaginitis. Oh, am I supposed to stop that in front of a bunch of brief us atees like this can't happen, uh, but it was very funny. He's a great child and so I I started there and then I, um, I always did theater and I always did like theater, competitions and performing and all that sort of stuff, did improv in high school. Um, at 18, a bunch of friends gave me money to buy a plane ticket and I went and auditioned for last comic standing in new york and um failed horribly at it because I was 18 and I only had one six minute bit and I was like I'm gonna make my dreams come true, up this six minute bit, uh.

Speaker 2: 38:18

And so I went up, I did terrible uh. And then uh went on a mission. I did pray in line, though I literally prayed. I was like, if success in this will keep me from serving mission, please help me, just fail, so that I'm not even tempted to not do that. And then I failed and I was like god entered his resume to be it's definitely not that I'm not funny enough, it's definitely that god knows I'm one of his warriors, his chosen disciples.

Speaker 2: 38:42

And so I went on a mission, came back, went to BYU and at the time there wasn't really much by way of stand-up in Utah, outside of Wise Guys, just 45 minutes away, didn't have a car. Also the open mic. Back then you had to show up at like 4 o'clock and to be able to perform at 8 o'clock and I had classes and I'm like I can't be waiting in the cold for hours, hours, I just can't do it. So, uh, but what they did have in provo was comedy sports, which is improv, and um, it was very good back in the day. I haven't been a long time so I'm not sure now, but, uh, it was really good back in the day, uh, and I loved it. It was so fun and I just saw them. I was like I'm gonna do that, started taking classes, started doing improv, kept doing improv. Went to florida. When I went to florida, I tried doing improv. There wasn't a good improv scene. So I uh jumped on twitter and just started writing jokes constantly and since my advisor was checked out, I was like this is my new job is just writing jokes on twitter. So it's just, I did that.

Speaker 2: 39:43

I got pretty big on twitter, moved back to utah and suddenly all the people were like. I felt like a lot of the comedians were like yeah, adam's, adam's great. Is he like great? I don't know, but you know he's great. And I was always like it's just because I'm young, I promise, I think I'm very funny and I'm confident in it.

Speaker 2: 39:59

I felt like I came back and as soon as people were like this motherfucker's getting published by BuzzFeed every week, like he can hang, sort of thing, so it was kind of nice. But yeah, so I started doing that and at that point I just converted all my like a lot of my tweets into one-liners. And when random stand-up nights would come up at the improv club. I would do them, and Then people invited me to start doing stand-up more. I started doing stand-up at BYU, at their Humor U Club, which is a fantastic club, and then, yeah, kind of went from there where, as soon as I started doing it at BYU, I started taking it a little bit more seriously. And when I graduated and moved to Arizona I did some improv but I started doing equal amounts stand-up and I was like I think this is what I do now. I mean, it's just stand-up and I was like I think this is what I do now.

Speaker 2: 40:43

I mean, it's just stand-up, I think it's just comedy, so anyway. Um, well, that was boring, but you know, it's just like incremental sort of things of yeah, it started off with just being funny, but I think what I've really loved is I always have loved writing like a lot like I wrote my first like 15 page story when I was in first grade, because we were asked to write a one-page story. I just couldn't help myself. Most of it was plagiarized, but it's whatever. And so if I wrote like 15 pages and I couldn't wait to tell the story, I feel like I've always been like that, where I just really love writing, and so it's just yeah, it's just been a part of me. Even when I haven't been performing like Twitter, I was just like, well, I'm going to at least be writing constantly and yeah, and so that's just turned into the comedy.

Speaker 1: 41:24

Well, I love that. It's like been this kind of like side thing until it got to a point where you're like, hey, wait a minute. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 41:30

How do we do this? Well, I like, literally I had a conversation with my wife, finally, where I was like, okay, so I've got a graduate degree, we just spent a lot of money on that. I don't think I can compete. I was like I've gotten to the rank in the corporate world where this kind of needs to be the only thing I do. If I'm going to compete like, if I'm going to be like gung ho, let's succeed in this, it's gotta be the only thing I did. Yeah, comedy wise, I was like I'm kind of getting gigs that are good enough now that if I come a little ill prepared, if I come a little ill-prepared, it's very noticeable. I I kind of have to go all in if I'm going to compete over there as well.

Speaker 2: 42:04

And I wasn't sure what to do and thankfully, yeah, we pulled the trigger and, uh, it just, it just seemed like comedy. Every time I gave it an inch, it gave even more back to me, yeah, and so I was like, oh, that's what I really love. Um, because once again, yeah, growing up, poor, I didn't know anybody who was a comedian or a writer Most of the time. That's right, that's, that's not the baby shit. You know that's like someone's parents going to fund this, yeah, and I remember even doing it, and people like we probably like asked your parents for some money, right, I'm like my parents would ask me for money. I think before I'd ask them for money and so, yeah, so I just giving it a little bit more. And then, as soon as I reached that breaking point, I was like, well, what's it gonna be? And it was comedy and it's oh, it's been so good.

Speaker 1: 42:45

Yeah, it's been so fun but it's like, it's so fun when a like, you start building your own thing because, like, because again, like you could go work in corporate america, you could have your director, vp title, whatever, and like, whatever you do, like isn't really gonna make as much of an impact, as much as you showing up to a show and killing it and then all of a sudden you get invited to these three shows and those killing like hold on, like this matters. But then also, if, like, if you're doing what makes you happy in yourself, then you're going to do better at it and it's going to give you so much energy compared to, like, seeing how much more you can optimize your spreadsheet, yeah, so well.

Speaker 2: 43:23

Also, I, I'm a big believer that if someone really wants to do something, you should like and be happy. I think you should find something where you you enjoy the shit work of it as well. Yeah, and that can be hard for like a lot of jobs, like every job is a job, and there's obviously parts, even being comedian. They're like I don't like this, um, but, like I said, the thing that I do love is I love sitting down and I love just writing jokes and I love thinking about it, and that's something that I don't. I think a lot of people think they would like. But when people think about comedy and they're like, oh, you must love comedy, you must love going on stage and making people laugh, and like, oh, of course, but that's just human nature that's basically telling.

Speaker 2: 43:58

So we all love being validated by large groups of people for they were working hard on yeah, you might as well tell like you're the type of person who likes a good meal, like that there's someone who doesn't, but it doesn't make sense. But the other part even comedians who I see who are good and they just can't do the writing or they don't want to do the writing and we just like regret it. I'm like you should go find something else. Like that's kind of what the real job is. The real job is sitting and writing way more than most other people and then editing it down to a few small parts and taking that on stage. Like that's the real job. And if you can love the part, that's like the thing that everybody else looks at and they're like that sounds incredibly tedious and arduous and awful and you, you're like pretty fucking super, I love it. Yeah, it's like. Then take that.

Speaker 2: 44:47

I had people like that in the corporate world, even because I worked in HR, and I did that because I wanted to make a difference.

Speaker 2: 44:53

And then I was like, oh, hr, you don't get to make a difference, they sell that to you. It's generally not what happens, but I had other people in the HR world who the minutiae and stuff fascinated them, it interested them, they found value in it and I was like I just can't compete with someone like that. How can I compete with a guy who, when I've got two 70 year old men who are bickering and calling each other the N word, even though they're both white, because one of them parked in the other one's spot and we don't have assigned parking spots, but they both know whose spot is which and he did that to piss the other one's spot and we don't have assigned parking spots, but they both know whose spot is which and he did that to piss the other one off how am I supposed to look at that? If I look at that, I'm like you thieves just make amends. And another guy looks at that and he's like, oh, I love this.

Speaker 2: 45:34

I'll have to get to the bottom yeah I like I will never, never beat that guy and I don't want to. No, I don't even want to anyway so what was it like?

Speaker 1: 45:43

because I mean so much of your experience up until you're like, all right, I think I'm gonna do this hispanic. I mean local places, wherever you were. But what does that experience like when you go from? I mean, again, playing at the places that you know, communities you're around to being like all right time to hit the road and hunting yourself like on enemy, like behind enemy lines?

Speaker 2: 46:00

yeah, I mean it could definitely be intimidating. Um, I think I think the. I think the big intimidation piece is usually that you know, anywhere you go, people will talk about what the culture is, but the culture of wherever you're at doesn't necessarily reflect the culture of the room that you're in. You know what I mean because, like, um, yeah, you can go, you can go to backwoods wherever, which is a fair amount of places I perform and everyone will be like you've got to be careful around here, like it's a really conservative place, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then it turns out that maybe in that spot, the only people who are really supporting the arts is everybody who's left-leaf. So you get up on stage and maybe you're like you know what, I'm not going to do it. Then you get to the end of your set and people are like we thought you'd be a lot more liberal, we were excited for it, and we're like, oh god damn it.

Speaker 2: 46:49

So more abortion, more abortion, uh, and so there's like so there's maybe moments like that, that I, that I think, uh, I just had to learn that that level. That was always the thing that I think intimidated me the most, because something I pride myself in as a comedian is I uh, I feel like I'm very good at hitting whatever demographic you've got, so like I've got sets that I've worked and I write a lot, so I've got a lot of different sets that if you hire me for something where it's like hey, families, including kids, are going to be here, I'm like, oh okay, I know where I'm more abortion, more abortion. And the parents cheer and the kids are like I knew it. Um, but yeah, so there's like things like that. And then compare that to like I mean I'm never gonna change who. I am definitely not gonna do that. I'm not gonna get in front of a bunch of republicans and be like actually trump's, not that.

Speaker 2: 47:33

My favorite bit to do in front of republicans is that I have about trump getting shot and how it would have been great because it would have been the if, like, that shot had been made, the, the kid who did it, the assassin, the first guy. He was cut from his high school rifle team. So my whole joke is, if he'd made that shot, that would have been the greatest moment underdog story in sports history. Like that's amazing and I love telling that to people. Like, all right, that's pretty good, that's pretty good. I do love sports more than my love of politics. It's the one thing, and so it's fun. I like michael george and his high school team yeah, we didn't make the cut.

Speaker 2: 48:07

That's the follow-up joke that I talked about. There you go, I got I give you double logic. Train it, yeah, uh, so, so, yeah, so there's, there's maybe like that little intimidation piece, but outside that I mean, once you've been doing it for a while, I feel like I'm pretty good at reading rooms and the improv background helps out a lot as well. There's been plenty of shows where I've like stopped and I've been like something's weird, what is this? And uh, and sometimes it's like I don't know It'll be like, oh, you told a joke and everybody's just thinking about this local thing, like that's happened before.

Speaker 2: 48:33

Or it's like, oh, you mentioned this, this just happened here. And then I'm like, oh, let's talk about that. And then I pivot it into what I wanted to puck on stuff like that. So I think I've been doing it long enough that there's not really any place that I feel too nervous about and I've got my jokes that I know they. They work pretty much with whoever, wherever, for the most part, and things like that. Um, but it's definitely intimidating at first, but that's why comedy's got features and hosts and stuff, so that you can work all that shit out. Yeah, and, and ideally as soon as you're the main act, you know that's someone who gets it, yeah.

Speaker 1: 49:07

It's all like I always laugh about. I mean, you talk to most people and they the thought of having a microphone in their hand in front of people is the most terrifying thing in the world.

Speaker 2: 49:16

Yeah, and like I'm not that way, like I literally get depressed if I'm not performing, like there's been periods of my life when I was dating my wife, uh, and I was at byu and I fell into like a deep depression. I was like I don't know what's going on and then it was like real stupid. But I finally was like I think it's that I'm just not performing and I feel like I'm missing the part of me. And then I started before me. I was like I'm back, baby.

Speaker 1: 49:38

That's literally all it was she's like actually, now I actually do like you, let's get married. You're like everything works when I'm telling jokes. Yeah, yeah, because like I'm the same way, like if I were to be at a jazz game and they're like eric bilson, can you come down and take the mic and just talk for 20 minutes like could I sure? Yeah, yeah, uh, but like if were you all, yeah, I guess you did always kind of feel that way.

Speaker 2: 49:58

I mean, especially if you're the middle of five, like you're used to just being loud and wanting to get bad attention, yeah, and I felt like I was always doing a bit as well, like I was very much so a kid who would like take on characters and just be goofy and stuff. Like if you look through a lot of the like my yearbooks, like yearbook photos and stuff they've got, like, oh, these kids are studying and these kids are doing there, and here's adam wearing 20 different tutus for no goddamn reason. I want to ask him to do this, but he's wandering the halls dressed like this. And so it was always just bits and goofing and not having a whole lot of pride in how I was perceived, just wanting to make people laugh and have fun, sort of thing. So yeah, yellow personality, if we want to go to the color.

Speaker 1: 50:40

I I can agree to that like because, like I always loved I mean voices and bits and like, if there was ever any sort of costume anything, I was in there. There's one year, one of my friends who had this halloween party over in like olympus cove and I really didn't have like a costume. So I was like I'm just gonna go and I'm gonna be the best fucking nerd possible. So I has this name tag and it's gl and hello. My name's Glenn. I'm here for the party. Where do we go? Like to the point where people are like, hey, is this kid like? Like, do we need to be like nice to him because his parents dropped him and he has a direct, I don't know? And so I ended up getting like second place in the casting contest. Only to no, I mean he did go all in.

Speaker 2: 51:21

In a way, he risked it all. Oh yeah, he risked it all.

Speaker 1: 51:24

They really didn't have pictures or else I'd have lost it all. But he risked it all. Yeah, no, do I get the trophy back. Like seriously he got canceled. I get it. Zetchie Bush gets his trophy back. I deny.

Speaker 2: 51:48

But so you end up obviously coming back here, yeah, and I mean, walk me through how. I mean you started your own comedy church. Yeah, I've all seen too. So I guess I started doing stand-up like at humor. You and that's when that started progressing moved away, came back, started taking more seriously.

Speaker 2: 51:53

I worked for studio c as a writer for a season oh really interesting, which was like the first glimpse into like this could be a career sort of thing. Um, yeah, I was there for the very uh last season that that whole cast was off, son. Unfortunately didn't work. What?

Speaker 1: 52:09

do you mean I'm not gonna hire me?

Speaker 2: 52:11

more like what do you mean? You guys are all quitting. I just got here so I said glad that they got to do what they wanted to do. But I was like oh no, but uh, but yeah. So I like wrote for Stussy, moved away, came back, was doing all that stuff. Um, yeah, I'd left the church. When was it? I left the church while I was living in Arizona. It was like October of 2019. I'm remembering Right. And then, you know, pandemic happened, had the whole thing where I'm like who's this my fault, all that sort of stuff Is this the end of types and I endured to almost the end.

Speaker 2: 52:42

What did I do? Um, but I moved back, was still doing standup and, uh, this and Greg kite, no local comedian who's co-host on a comedy church, sorry, uh, um, I've got allergies. I'm the same way. It's been destroying me. I hate it because when we don't have additional, like sucking my snot and everybody knows what you're doing.

Speaker 2: 53:04

I'm like you're right, I'm a disgusting human being and we're all just tubes. Sorry, but that's human nature. Trying to get this down the tears, little girls are in chin tubes. Yeah, stick it up a little further. Um. So anyway, he approached me and I was kind of.

Speaker 2: 53:17

I felt like I was at this point in my comedy where I'm like I need something to break through and my hope was that I could be taken a little bit more seriously by just being a guest, because I'd heard about his show. I was like I hope he just has me on, um, and he invited me over to his house. I was like sick, he's gonna ask me to be a guest on the show. And he instead was nice when he comes out in a silk robe and the candles, he, he did. And he was like how bad you want it, baby. And I was like bad enough, daddy. And it's been a beautiful relationship ever since. Now he, he, and right in the end he was like tell me a bit about what's going on. And we didn't know each other like super well, but just definitely not well enough for him to invite. But you knew a lot about each other. We knew, liked each other's comedy.

Speaker 2: 53:58

I ran an open mic in Provo. He lives in Orem. It was like the only valid open mic outside of Salt Lake, basically, and stuff like that. And so yeah, we both knew and liked each other but we didn't know each other super well. But yeah, he brought me in. He was like hey, here's the thing, I've got my show, comedy Church. I think it's good, but I think it could could be great. It needs to be formatted a little tighter. I've got some ideas for what that could look like, but I also know I can't do it myself and I think you're the guy for it. What do you think? And I was like absolutely. And then I walked away and I was like, oh, it's so scared, I just left ormanism, I don't know if I can sort of like, but it's the one church.

Speaker 1: 54:36

I can't go back to another one.

Speaker 2: 54:37

I literally had to go date and find myself, and I was still at that point where I was like such a nice guy that I was like I don't want to talk about the church. Everyone talks about like well, you leave the church but you can't leave it alone, sort of thing, which is a very stupid thing to say, because never have I told someone like, oh, I used to work in marketing. They're like whoa, really marketing alone, can you? You got a whole ass resume. Oh, look at this guy, he wrote up all the stuff he can't leave alone. I'm like it's just your life, it's all it is. I talked about my life, so uh, but I went back to my wife, who was still in the church at the time, and I was like this is gonna be okay. She was like I think it'll be okay as long as you're not so long as you're speaking your truth. You know, like just bashing for the sake of bashing. Like yeah, I'm not that type of person, so I don't think I would. Um, how wrong, I would, no, just so feel like I do that, but um, but yeah.

Speaker 2: 55:24

So I jumped in, we formalized it, we started doing this co-host thing and it was just like, from the first time doing it, greg and I just like really clicked and it's been awesome. Like he is one of my closest friends and it could have easily have just been a thing where we were friendly and business partners. And sometimes people ask they're like, oh, so you guys like do this together. Do you see each other outside of this at all? And I'm like, yeah, I, I officiated his wedding with his wife, but we're super tight now he, I like there's very few people in my life that I've been so much on the same page as I am with Greg, and even when we're not on the same page, we both disagree the same way and so we can like figure it out regardless. So he's awesome and so I just uh, yeah, I started doing it with him. We did that wise guys for a little, we stopped doing that wise guys and now we're going to go back to wise guys, which was very exciting. So I'm super stoked for that.

Speaker 1: 56:14

So what's the schedule for wise guys? It's gonna be like a consistent night, or?

Speaker 2: 56:17

yeah, we'll be. I mean, it'll be the same schedule that we've been doing, but it's the first and third sunday of every month and, uh, first sunday we'll be at the salt lake location in the rickles room until we outgrow it. Um, hopefully I put some good uh, but we'll be at the salt lake location on the first sunday and on the third sunday we'll be at the jordan landing location west.

Speaker 1: 56:36

Okay, I was hoping you were gonna say ogden, because you don't have to go drive all the way out there.

Speaker 2: 56:39

No, I would never and that's a, that's a pseudo clean room as well and it doesn't really fit our value war, so yeah, anyway, but but yeah, so that's kind of how I got involved and we've toured with it as well, which has been fun. Um, not like a ton, but there's been a couple cities. We've done phoenix a couple times. We just got back, for I just got back from doing um, where was I? Somewhere in texas, san antonio, el paso? No, yeah, el paso. That way. Dallas, fort worth area. That el paso? No, no, that's where was el paso.

Speaker 2: 57:10

El paso's like that's on the border yeah yeah, I used to go there for my old job with pepsi, so I'd make a whole lot. Texas fucking sucks. That's the point that I'm trying to. It was a nice club. I do love the club out there. Uh, mike dropped, that was uh, but uh, that was fort worth area. We've done san diego, I did way in the backwoods, uh. Uh, canada, it's a place called prince george. I did a show out there because there was this like psychedelic mushroom convention, literally, literally. They were like we can't pay you much, we could only pay you the cost of the flight and I was like sold, I'll absolutely be there.

Speaker 1: 57:47

That's jokes on you guys. I would have done it for less.

Speaker 2: 57:49

Yeah, and so we've been able to travel with it and stuff, and then obviously I travel a lot, just as myself, yeah, and all that. But yeah, it's been really good which?

Speaker 1: 57:57

and all that, but yeah, it's been really good. Which do you like doing? Like if someone were to call you, be like, hey, we can do this one of each way. We can do the comedy church set that you know, or we can do your adam on the road kind of typical solo show. Which one do you like doing more?

Speaker 2: 58:09

I mean I, I love them both for different reasons. I think at this point, now that I'm traveling, we're trying to pull back a little bit from comedy church travel and try to do more solo stuff, mostly just because it costs a lot of money to get everybody out there. It's me, it's greg, it's uh, we've got a guy who does music as well, we've got an intermediary, him every show, a special musical member, and so it's us three. And greg also isn't like a huge fan of traveling most of the time. It's really got to be worth his time, he feels. And anytime I do the show without greg, I still have a good time, but not as good of time, and as soon as he's not there I'm like probably should have just done my own thing.

Speaker 2: 58:46

So I love them both for different reasons. I do like to travel with Comedy Church though, because we have local comedians on and it's always fun to get. Because the idea and ideal of Comedy Church ideal of comedy church is not to be mormon-centric like greg's. Not mormon, he's ex-evangelical. Oh, interesting, yeah, he actually moved here to go to byu because he felt he was called of god to convert mormons to the true jesus. Is that crazy? He thought he was going to go to byu and convert everybody and then he converted no one and became an atheist.

Speaker 2: 59:13

So, yeah, it was very fun. We're writing a movie about it, actually, we're gonna write a movie and that's super stoked up, um, but so, uh, yeah, so the the it's very mormon-centric when it's in utah, which is most of the time, but it's so fun to get out and like learn about that piece. Like when I was in backwoods, canada, we had three guests on and each one of them talked about this christian bible camp, the summer camp. That was local, but the crazy part is, all three of these women were like oh yeah, I went there. But all of them, as I'm interviewing, they were all like, yeah, I've never been religious, all I did was go to this like christian bible camp trade. So the first one, I'm like oh weird okay, gotcha.

Speaker 2: 59:48

Second one brought it up as well. I'm like, oh, you went to the same one. They're like, oh, yeah, we did, that's fun. The third one was like, yeah, not religious, I just send my kids off to this bible camp. I was like what the fuck is going on? You guys don't have anything else to do in the goddamn summertime except try to either swim or walk on water. And everyone's like, honestly, yeah, and I was like how fun to like learn about that little piece of this location, you know. So I think it's so fun.

Speaker 2: 1:00:10

When we did we did a show in new york. We did a show in new york. We had three jews on the show, yeah, so that was great. So I learned a little bit more about juda, judaism and all that sort of stuff and what it's like locally and what it means to people and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2: 1:00:23

The show I just did in Texas, one of the guys he's got Muslim roots but he never really did anything about it. And then the girl who was on the show, she had Baptist like conservative Baptist roots. She had Baptist like conservative Baptist roots, and so the hope for Comedy Church is always that we get whatever the flavor is of the locality to talk about and discuss, whatever's going on. What's religion like here for you? What's it like here in El Paso, in Dallas-Fort Worth, el Paso area, but yeah, all that sort of stuff. So I do love it for that reason where it's like a way to learn about the local culture through a lens that traditionally people like don't talk about it, you know so I think it's about and like it is much, as there's been this I mean mass group of people leaving mormonism than any other time in utah history.

Speaker 1: 1:01:16

like, yeah, there's also similar trends going on on most of the country, everywhere.

Speaker 2: 1:01:20

And so, and the things going on in Mormonism, where people are like I'm more nuanced, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You talk to any Muslim anywhere and it's like crazy how similar it is. Yeah, it's wild.

Speaker 1: 1:01:30

And so like. And there's one time it was when I had to make decisions so, yeah, the place was, I was working, it was pretty lds, and even this one team I was working with had a monday morning stand up and they would start by like, oh, would you load a church yesterday? And I was like, oh, and so I started showing up with a coffee thermos. But I was, uh, there's one time this guy comes up to me who I'd like worked in very different parts of things. But he comes up. He's like hey, what are you doing for lunch? I'm like I was gonna do something. He's like well, do you want to walk to, uh, costa vida, and we can chat? I was like, yeah, like, as long as you don't like harvest my kidneys. And yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1: 1:02:15

And like, we started walking saying, hey, so like, I know you've talked about you on a mission, you were born here, but then you're also the one organizing happy hours, like make this, make sense. I was like, oh, like I was and I'm not, and trying to figure out life. He's like, oh, cool, he's like, because I was raised, sent by, not something about us. Um, uh, joseph, joseph, thank you. And he's like in like similarly, like my mom like, didn't talk to me at all, like, or, and I had to leave and there was this whole ostracized like, ostracization of everything. I'm like, yeah, like similar to this, and so we had this moment where, like we had these two high demand religions that I'm like yeah, I experienced this too like, oh my gosh, mine was more nuanced to this, yeah, and it was like wild because, like none of my the people I was working at that time were like more like, like active or like, yeah, now tell me why this is.

Speaker 2: 1:02:57

But because they never do. No one's asked me, no one's even invited me back to church ever, which I think is both fun and as bloody like am I, was I the only active mormon actually is?

Speaker 1: 1:03:08

that really well. It was like it was interesting to have that experience because, like again, like you talk to most mormon, I mean x one of people, especially like x one with people that are comedians, content creators, influencers, whatever it's like they act like it's this is the only place that this happened and there's no one else that experiences this, and like why there's there's nuance to it all for sure. But like then you go talk to, I mean like people who, like were used to be like hasidic jews or like used to be like very actively muslim or figure out of jehovah's witness. They're like this. There's a lot more than just your story.

Speaker 2: 1:03:39

Oh, 100. Yeah, I mean I was kind of before we started recording right of traveling around. It's so funny because in utah, how frequently people are like, well, you can't travel with that right. No one wants to hear about mormonism back in new york. And they're like people only want me to talk about mormonism out there as soon as I'm like. So I'm mormon anyway. Let me talk about my kids. They're like fuck that. Talk to all of them. Yeah, they're like talk about the cult, like they're. They're thrilled to talk about. They want to know so much about it. At the same time, their tolerance level is lower.

Speaker 2: 1:04:09

Uh, well we kind of mixed uh, in some ways it's a little lower about surprising things where people like sounds like you're attacking religion. I don't like that. It's surprising to me how many people defend religion, regardless of stance. Religion is outrageously protected to a level that they're not gonna get in that hit that. Uh, everything should be debated, in my opinion. But, um, but, uh, the the.

Speaker 2: 1:04:32

The more surprising thing to me is the jokes that I'll tell in utah that people are like oh, that's offensive, you really have it out for the church. I'm like I don't feel like I do. I feel like I'm just telling the story for my life or whatever. And then I tell that same story somewhere else for someone who's never heard of morbidism, and they're like I really like that you left, but you're still like not mean to them. I like that. You like even talk them up like that one story and they'll like say the same story where for them. They're like oh, you acknowledge the weird part and you had fun in it. And you're still like doing okay, this guy must really love the mormon church. And then here I'm like here's my weird part, that I didn't really like it. People like he's out for the more the church. So it's also additionally funny that way. It's like such a different picture wherever you are.

Speaker 2: 1:05:15

But uh, but yeah, but people are like fascinated by ut Utah in general. It's crazy how much of Utah culture has escaped Utah. You got like trends, like Utah curls you know about those. Yeah, you got like the sodas, obviously. The amount of people who I made a joke in Toronto when I was on stage where people were like we've been watching the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and I was like, oh, finally, I felt I left my 60 ounce Diet Coke in the back. I, oh, finally, I felt I left my 60 ounce Diet Coke in the back. I guess I can grab. And people were just like, like they loved it. The cliches that you know, even a few years ago, if you'd mentioned Soda Shop, I don't think people outside of Utah hear a lot, but then people hear it and they're fascinated.

Speaker 1: 1:05:53

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:05:53

Just fascinated by it. Yeah, it's crazy how much it escapes there and people want to know that.

Speaker 1: 1:05:59

Well, even when I was in Florida for a work trip, and again, as soon as you tell anyone you're from Utah, are you Mormon? Yeah, and they're like yeah, I live always because I'm a great Mormon my birth or belief? And they're like both. I'm like birth, yes, belief. They're already like this guy's weird. This guy already like this guy's weird. This guy kept bingo. If you can get behind me being weird, then yeah, it's a good to go from there, but then it's like all, then it's all. The questions are like oh, why not anymore? Like what is this? Or like is it really like that there? Or have you soaked? It's crazy. How many people like could you imagine if, like, I asked a similar question to someone, then like, hey, have you ever, you know, just like, stuck it in and hung out? Yeah, they'd be like so you're Jewish, you fuck between a sheet.

Speaker 2: 1:06:42

Yeah, like that is so offensive. But then they're like like hey, did you?

Speaker 1: 1:06:46

did you soak? You're like excuse me? No, that's probably how many people believe it.

Speaker 2: 1:06:50

Well, my whole bit about soaking is how I'm like it's not real.

Speaker 1: 1:07:00

So here's my take on it was it was, in my opinion, like an urban legend or no one did it, but I guess, how does it go? Talk about it exactly? I 100 agree. And so now there's these kids like I did it and I was like whoa, like it was a joke.

Speaker 2: 1:07:07

So when I perform I think I saw them I have a park where I say like who believes that soaking's real? And people raise hands like who doesn't? And then I say, uh, and who's done? Who has soaked here? And, generally speaking speaking, no one has. And then I just make joke about that.

Speaker 2: 1:07:24

Where it's like see, it's never like oh, I did it. It's always like no, I've been hearing about it, blah, blah, blah. But there's been a few times that people have done it, but I don't think I've ever had someone who has admitted to doing it and thought it was a loophole. Everybody either did it and they were like, yeah, I knew what I was doing was wrong and I was just super horny and that's what we did. Yeah, um, and then they're like I mean, we started doing that and we just started having sex, or it's someone who was like, yeah, we did it, but I didn't know what sex was at all. So if you would ask me like is this wrong? I had no concept of sexualization, and that's even crazier, if you would ask me like is this wrong?

Speaker 1: 1:07:59

I had no concept of sexualization, and that's even crazier if you think about it, it turns out I was actually just inside of her knee.

Speaker 2: 1:08:07

Well, just the idea that it's like Abbey over soaked, and someone's like, yeah, but not sexually. Like I didn't. I had a penis inside me and I didn't know what it was doing there, like I didn't know that's what sex was and because it didn't feel bad, that was doing there, like I didn't know that's what sex was and because it didn't feel bad. That was one lady at her show. She was like I didn't know it was sex because I didn't feel bad and the only thing I knew about sex is that I should feel bad doing it, and so this wasn't sex, because I didn't know where it was and I didn't feel bad. So how could it be? How could it be? Can't be foolproof. Literally, it's so much so, yeah, I don't think it's like really real, but I'm with you where I'm like I think there's some people who have tried it.

Speaker 1: 1:08:41

Oh yeah, yeah, there's some like BYU Fresh was.

Speaker 2: 1:08:44

Oh, you haven't done it, you should, oh I want to be cool and then I kind of asked my wife to do it sometime. We were like we just got to try this shit out, we got to figure out what the kids are talking about. She said done. I just don't think anybody has the willpower to actually do that idea that you're gonna go and park it. You're gonna move around at the very least and make excuses like oh, I just have to adjust.

Speaker 1: 1:09:03

Oh, I have to adjust stick your hand in a bag of chips and don't come out with one.

Speaker 2: 1:09:07

Yeah, dario, with him finally, just keep going in and in and in on a little cheese dust on it, boy yeah so I don't know it's real, but people want to hear about it.

Speaker 2: 1:09:15

It really is. I mean being from utah right now. It's the equivalent of if there was like as a comic. It's the equivalent of like if there was a comic from pennsylvania who came in and they're like oh, I'm from pennsylvania. You're like, oh, cool, then I can. I grew up amish, but I don't want to talk about that. No one wants to hear about growing up amish. Everybody grows up amish and then leaves and chooses a different life. So, but I don't talk about that. Wouldn you be like, motherfucker? You better either give me the nicest chair I've ever seen, or you better talk about what it was like to be an Amish. And I feel like it's almost like that. As soon as I go out and say it, people are like oh, tell me more.

Speaker 1: 1:09:49

Well, everybody wants to hear what they don't experience, especially like a novel experience Especially if they already know, like a crumb.

Speaker 2: 1:09:55

Yeah, if you know a crumb, if you know a little bit about Philadelphia, like enough that it's like are you kidding me, sort of thing. And then someone's like I'm from Philadelphia, you best believe you're going to be like tell me about this. That's how people feel about Utah right now.

Speaker 1: 1:10:08

Well, yeah, freaking everywhere, well, and then, you go down to St George will? Yeah?

Speaker 2: 1:10:20

I'm about to do a show down in colorado city. I'm so excited, for I've done it once before as a feature and I'm gonna headline there and I'm I love it. It's so fun, it's wild. Last time I performed, people kept chatting through my set and I kind of got frustrated. I was like what's going on, and so I kind of went quiet at one point, just like waiting, and I hated it because I felt like I was a substitute teacher all of a sudden. Yeah, but then I started listening to other conversations and it was just that they were like processing my jokes. So I've got a joke that I did down there.

Speaker 2: 1:10:47

I don't travel with it because it's not as pertinent but I was like, oh, I'll do this joke here, uh, about how um mormons believe that god, that there's a heavenly mother. But we don't really talk about heavenly mother. We're not supposed to, and that's why I think morgan god's divorced because he's like don't even fucking talk about that bitch sort of yeah. And so I did that joke and immediately everybody laughed and then they started talking and I was like why is this happening? And I started listening and, yeah, everyone was like how do you think? Action it?

Speaker 2: 1:11:20

is I mean, if he's looking, let's make your way for, like, set word aside. But first of all, like they started going through the theological whole, out these scriptures literally. They were like doing theological arguments and breakdowns, because so many of them grew up in an even wilder situation than I did. Yeah, and they've got this guy up there who's like here's a new, here's a new thought that you usually would punish yourself for. Chew on that for a bit. And they immediately were like let's talk about that. It was almost hard where I was like please process your objections after the show, give me a little bit of time, I promise there's a lot of funny things to talk about. And then afterwards you could be like that was so good. So what about this God?

Speaker 1: 1:11:59

being divorced thing, then you could do so. Do we have a step, god, mother?

Speaker 2: 1:12:03

oh, is she nice. Let's do that application step god. But that's fun I should do. I'll make a sticker that says there you go uh, what like?

Speaker 1: 1:12:10

it almost reminds me that you could. You could go and complete greg's vision. You could go down to colorado city, be like this ends. Do you remember I told you about a divorce?

Speaker 2: 1:12:19

uh god, well, he just got remarried, gonna step godmother there's a, there's an open spot right now in that town for new cult leader and it's imagine like all they're like, we're all out.

Speaker 1: 1:12:30

Now you say to us and you're like, they're like, we'll follow you to the end of the world church.

Speaker 2: 1:12:34

Well, eric and I always joke where like, if any church works out, it will eventually become a sex cult. That's the end. That's the real end goal.

Speaker 1: 1:12:42

I mean, that's the, that's. That's what any church or cold be drinking can want it's the inevitable, so why not just embrace it?

Speaker 2: 1:12:48

it's like it was that way.

Speaker 2: 1:12:49

No, it is wild going down there as well because, man, I feel for those people. I mean, you leave mormonism, you've got like guilt and the shame of the family ties and a lot of stuff to get with, but leaving that. There was like a guy down there who he left, and someone was telling me that he had four wives and they all left the church and two of his wives left him and it was like kind of devastating to him because he was like you're my wife and they were like I didn't want this. And then he had to process that where he was like I did the thing to you that I ate it. That I thought and I didn't know and I was like, well, you didn't know, but anyway, but then he but he still had two wives and so now he's no longer religious and he's the dude. He's got two wives and they're going on group dates still and they're trying to navigate the world, which now is kind of fine because there's enough polyamorous people that are like just stop saying polygamous and say polyamorous.

Speaker 1: 1:13:42

Yeah, we rebranded this for you and it's a lot easier this way one of my newest jokes.

Speaker 2: 1:13:46

All right, I wrote that I like a lot. As I say, I really like that. You know we're still progressing as a country. There's words you can't say like, for instance, we don't derogatorily, we don't call anyone a slut now, we just call people polyamorous. Well, that's really. I think that's nice, it's a kindness that we give people. Yeah, if they just rebrand down there, then you'll be fine, you can move to borland, we're all out of you. Yeah, you think?

Speaker 1: 1:14:05

just be normal that I'm not drinking coffee yeah, it's okay.

Speaker 2: 1:14:08

Yeah, and they're like good, yeah, kombucha on um for me, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1: 1:14:12

Um, uh, adam, this has been amazing. I love hearing about people's stories, especially things that because, like I could say the same thing about you saying, or the example of a comedian from Pennsylvania, you don't want to hear about Irish people traveling with Mormon joke, people want to hear about it. But like, also, like I mean, I want to hear what a comedian's life is like and what what it means to get started and how you go to start a comedy church with your friends and they go from there. So keep it up like it's. It's it's fun and I I'm someone who appreciates good content, especially good jokes, and especially when I can relate personally to them. Yeah, um in all, in that process that's the proudest thing I am.

Speaker 2: 1:14:49

Uh, that's the most pride I have in comedy church is that it's like a it's space where everybody had like, for the most part, pretty similar background. We can all go and we're hey, we don't have like an agenda except to have a good time Using a very specific language that you only know if you grew up in a certain way, and it's so fun to just hang out with people and it's like I don't have to explain myself, I can just speak the same language. I'll be all in this, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:15:13

Just deep cuts that everybody gets? Yeah, because I imagine when you travel it's like all right, well, here's kind of how this works. Oh, yes.

Speaker 2: 1:15:20

I have to edit stuff out, or I guess I won't mention Melchizedek and I'll just say the power of God. It's like ah, that makes more sense yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:15:31

Well, adam, the two questions. I always end every episode with Number one. If you could have someone on the Small League City podcast and hear more about their story, what they're up to, who do you want to hear?

Speaker 2: 1:15:40

from. I feel like I already maybe saw that you've got them lined up, but maybe not those two, those girls from Elevate Utah do you have them? Yeah, they already did. They already did. That would be my first choice. I love what they're doing. They're great and I worked in. One of my first jobs out of high school was working for the Oregon State Senate as just a page, and the stuff that comes through the state level that becomes nationwide all those shit that we complain about nationwide starts at the state, and America would be different if all of us held accountable our local politicians instead. So I think what they're doing is very important work. So, yeah, that would be my first pick Beat you to the punch, beat me to your punch. And yeah, I'm still going to say that.

Speaker 1: 1:16:27

Cool Deal they're coming back Nice. And then, if people want to find more information about you tour schedules, comedy, church schedules- what's the best place to find information?

Speaker 2: 1:16:39

yeah, at adam browd, on any and all social media platforms um, or at comedy church slc. On, on all social media platforms as well, I think pretty sure do you?

Speaker 1: 1:16:50

yeah, come see a show. It's coming wise guys first at third sundays. First I heard something I always, I always need a sunday like with and it's a different, and it's a different show Every time.

Speaker 2: 1:17:00

We don't repeat a single topic for the whole calendar year, so you can come back and see a completely different show, different guests.

Speaker 1: 1:17:07

So it's kind of like how the church in Sunday school Literally that is what it is New test in the one year.

Speaker 2: 1:17:11

It's designed like a church. We have it set up. If you come, you'll see that it's like we've got it set up. Me and Greg do the I can't remember what we call it. We say like not the talk, but like we're the opening ministers or whatever. We've got an intermediary hymn. We've got yeah, all the discourse. Then we do a call and response toast at the end in Latin and we translate it for everybody at the end as well. It's super fun, it's a good time.

Speaker 1: 1:17:35

Great agenda. No, I'm excited. I great agenda. No, I'm excited, I'm coming and I will. I won't have any theological conversations and then I'll, I'll set them to wrap. What do you mean by that?

Speaker 2: 1:17:44

just heckle me throw me in the Book of Mormon where he said this philosophical peckles but the just so polite, so nice, just overly kind, yeah cool.

Speaker 1: 1:17:54

No, thank you, lado, thank you.